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Posted: 03/13/19 09:34pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The Hucksters added magnesium sulfate to a perfectly new discharged battery. It would strip excellent but sulfated loaded plate material and prstidigitate a phony CCA increase at the cost of battery lifespan.

Lattice linked aged sulfation is another beast altogether,

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I tried the Epsom salts trick many years ago. My immediate response was "WOW, it worked." It started my car like a brand new battery. What I didn't know was every minute I left it in the battery it was eating away my plates. Within about month that battery was no longer a battery.

Maybe he can take it to a battery shop to get it flushed and properly filled but it's probably not worth it.


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Salt in the battery? How about sawdust in your automatic transmission if it's slipping? Hardwood sawdust works better than pine or cedar, but the natural oils in the pine or cedar go a long way regarding corrosion prevention. Three friends and I pissed in a radiator one night after taping up a lower hose and made it home. Urine has salt in it. Maybe try taking a whiz in the battery?

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Posted: 03/14/19 04:39am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Epsom salts is magnesium sulfate, table salt or sea salt is sodium chloride. Completely two different compounds. They share nothing in common but the word salt.

I thought the saw dust was for manual transmissions and differentials. It helps mesh worn out gears, as the folk lore goes. I remember an Andy Griffith episode when Barney bought a old car that had saw dust in the rear end.

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Blended monkey pickles (leave the skins on) will make your slush box shift like new (for a while) and make your car smell like a Dairy Queen when the tranny gets hot too.

Egg whites in the radiator seals leaks and sawdust in the differentials cure bad gears too.... For a while at least.

His batteries are toast, burnt toast. Time to replace and put the epsom salts back in the medicine cabinet.

A spud in the tailpipe works wonders. It seals the exhaust and your motor won't start (gasoline engine). Pulled that trick a few times when I was a kid, on people I didn't like. Shoved the spud way up the tailpipe with a broom handle.


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2112 wrote:

Epsom salts is magnesium sulfate, table salt or sea salt is sodium chloride. Completely two different compounds. They share nothing in common but the word salt.

I thought the saw dust was for manual transmissions and differentials. It helps mesh worn out gears, as the folk lore goes. I remember an Andy Griffith episode when Barney bought a old car that had saw dust in the rear end.


I didn't know that it is not salt. Learned something. Mex mentioned magnesium.


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Water. PURE Lab grade distilled water. IS. believe it or not an insulator.

BUT WHEN YOU ADD SALE (Be it Epson or table) It becomes very conductive and .. Shorted his battery out.

There is one thing you can do about it.. Visit Costco or Sam's club and pick up a pair of brand new GC-2 batteries.. (Or Interstate or my choice is DEKA as well DEKA's are 100% US content and I like to support USA).


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wa8yxm wrote:

Water. PURE Lab grade distilled water. IS. believe it or not an insulator.

BUT WHEN YOU ADD SALE (Be it Epson or table) It becomes very conductive and .. Shorted his battery out.


Electrolyte needs to be conductive for a battery to work; otherwise, it cannot conduct a current. Battery acid is quite conductive on its own. Most things (salts and acids generally) dissolved in water will make it conductive due to the ions formed in the solution; exceptions are substances such as alcohols that, while miscible with water, do not ionize when dissolving.

It's not so much that the salt water shorts out the battery, but rather (according to those here who know the chemistry far more than I do) that the salt solution attacks the plates over time.





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I'd be interested in just how much improvement and for how long afterwards before cliff diving begins, that epsom salts make.

But this info would likely just be used by used car sellers and the like, hoping to not have to put in a new starter battery before sale.

But I guess there are plenty of integrity free, something for nothing folks everywhere, so magnesium salting of rv batteries before sale is not out of the question.

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