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Posted: 04/22/19 12:50am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Saw a reg cab F150 Sunday w/ comm plates. Had to laugh.


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ACZL wrote:

Saw a reg cab F150 Sunday w/ comm plates. Had to laugh.
Why? We have 20 or 30 of Reg Cab F150's where I work.

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nickthehunter wrote:

ACZL wrote:

Saw a reg cab F150 Sunday w/ comm plates. Had to laugh.
Why? We have 20 or 30 of Reg Cab F150's where I work.
People are confusing commercial plates with commercial vehicles. There are plenty of F-150s with commercial plates that are privately owned.


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My dad told me when I was a kid, "We pay extra for commercial tags, so I get to park in the special parking spots."


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badercubed wrote:

nickthehunter wrote:

ACZL wrote:

Saw a reg cab F150 Sunday w/ comm plates. Had to laugh.
Why? We have 20 or 30 of Reg Cab F150's where I work.
People are confusing commercial plates with commercial vehicles. There are plenty of F-150s with commercial plates that are privately owned.


In NY state, if you use your Pickup truck for commercial purposes it must have commercial plates, regardless of its weight. So if you use your 1/2 tone truck for business purposes it should have commercial plates on it. Also all pickup trucks that weight over 6000 Lbs are supposed to have commercial plates unless it is capped and has seats, seat fitting or camping equipment mounted in it. They only have this stupid weight rule for pickup trucks.

If your vehicle has commercial plates it is considered a commercial vehicle. So if you enter a Parkway that bans commercial traffic you can be ticketed and fined. Ownership does not determine whether the truck is considered commercial of not, the plates determine it.

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Auto parts stores locally had Ford Escorts in the past, prious today with truck plates, paid for max gvw of 4000 lbs. Allows them to park in truck loading zones etc.
As noted, depending on use of a vehicle, one may want truck or commercial plates on your rig.
I'd still do truck plates, if in states where a truck is pulling a trailer, hauling any kind of load with car plates, you may be over GVW per taxing code, get a ticket, told to Coe back with a truck with correct GVW! IE paid for truck commercial plates. I've heard of that happening.

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The 6000lb limit is the CURB WEIGHT of the vehicle, not the GVWR. I think a lot of people are getting that confused.

Indeed by the letter of the law, to register a pickup truck that is over 6000lbs as a passenger vehicle, it must have a permanently affixed "camper top" and "seats, seat fittings or camper equipment" permanently installed:

https://dmv.ny.gov/registration/register-pick-truck-passenger-class-vehicle

You may not ever get pulled over and ticketed for violating these requirements, but they are there to be enforced should the current condition of your truck cause "problems."

What makes any of you think that a "passenger" license on a pickup truck will cost any less than a "commercial" license?


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mkirsch wrote:

What makes any of you think that a "passenger" license on a pickup truck will cost any less than a "commercial" license?


For me this issue has nothing to do with cost. It's about being able to use the parkways when not towing, being able to park in New York City without worrying about getting a ticket, not having to install seats (which no one can legally ride in) and a cap on my truck. It's about getting this old insane law changed. Did you notice that there is no mention of seat belts in this law? Why..... because this law was written before seat belts were invented! Its time that this law is changed.

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In Missouri, we have to register the truck to include the weight of the trailer. The registration comes in 6K lb increments. So for instance, my Nissan Frontier, if all I was doing was running it by itself, I could buy a 6K lb plate. But since I tow the trailer with it, I am at about 8500 lbs combined weight, so I must buy a 12K plate.

The reasoning is, because when we buy a plate for the trailer, it can be a one time fee and the plate is "permanent".

I have been told the fine for overweight is $1/pound. Ouch.

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Posted: 04/26/19 09:35am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

In my state, we pay for GVWR on the vehicle and GVWR on the trailer. We do not have permanent trailer plates until you get to Class 8 style ones, so we do not have an option to pay for GCWR.

RV's have an exemption to paying GVWR, so I plan on my next enclosed trailer to have minimal living quarters and be titled as an RV.


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