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totaldla

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Posted: 05/02/19 09:11am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Does the 10spd give you a lower 1st gear and reverse? If not then a lower geared rear end is nice to have.

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totaldla wrote:

Does the 10spd give you a lower 1st gear and reverse? If not then a lower geared rear end is nice to have.

Google is a wonderful tool for finding information on a subject like the 10 speed Ford/GM tranny.
Gear splits start at 4.70 ratio 1st gear and a 4.87 reverse..........

vs old tech 4 speed trannies 2.5/3.0 1st gear ratio with about the same ratio for reverse.

Wifes '06 1500 5.3 engine 4l60e tranny 3.73 rear gears pulled my 10k car hauler with a 7500 lb blue tractor. It really struggled getting the load started and bogged every hill.
Her '16 1500 same 4wd crew cab short bed with the new gen 5.3 6l80e 3.42 gears pulls the sane car haul;er with the same blue tractor over the same roads/hills. The 6 speed has lower 1st gears/reverse and has no problems with the same load at launch or at speed.

No need for low rear gear with the new 6/8/10 speed trannies in a 1/2 ton truck that is payload limited anywayz by their small 3800-4800 rawr numbers.


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2112 wrote:

Look at the yellow sticker on the driver door jam that states that trucks payload. Get the most payload you can find.


This.

If you want to pull 7K+, you want a payload near 2K.


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I am successfully towing cross country for the past 2 years with a half ton, it is a diesel, 8 spd, 3.92, full air suspension. 28 ATC front bedroom. Loaded approx 7600lb.

The combination yields high altitude performance and no drama.Half tons are very capable towing.

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hvac wrote:

I am successfully towing cross country for the past 2 years with a half ton, it is a diesel, 8 spd, 3.92, full air suspension. 28 ATC front bedroom. Loaded approx 7600lb.

The combination yields high altitude performance and no drama.Half tons are very capable towing.


Lol, not possible, must have been a dream......according to the rvnet extremists.


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GrandpaKip wrote:

Slowmover wrote:

Today’s trucks are also far heavier. On better tires, but not much increase in ultimate traction (contact patch). Given they are also TALLER, they’re not more stable than a mid-90s pickup.

The change to the good is 4-whl disc. And some stability/braking programming.

Trailer brakes are what matter.

The less weight per wheel for a given swept area and contact patch is what wins brand discussions. And allied to a low COG.

A pickup is a handicapped vehicle.

Still can’t figure out your point.

The point is, he ran out of kids to yell "get off my lawn" at. So now he's taking it out on pickup trucks!

But I'm not sure wth a person is supposed to pull trailers with. My car has about 500hp. According to slow mover it would be a better option....my truck keeps tipping over on its side when I drive it! Lol

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Grit dog wrote:

GrandpaKip wrote:

Slowmover wrote:

Today’s trucks are also far heavier. On better tires, but not much increase in ultimate traction (contact patch). Given they are also TALLER, they’re not more stable than a mid-90s pickup.

The change to the good is 4-whl disc. And some stability/braking programming.

Trailer brakes are what matter.

The less weight per wheel for a given swept area and contact patch is what wins brand discussions. And allied to a low COG.

A pickup is a handicapped vehicle.

Still can’t figure out your point.

The point is, he ran out of kids to yell "get off my lawn" at. So now he's taking it out on pickup trucks!

But I'm not sure wth a person is supposed to pull trailers with. My car has about 500hp. According to slow mover it would be a better option....my truck keeps tipping over on its side when I drive it! Lol

Guess I could try my wife’s Subaru. Low COG, 4 wheel disc brakes, very stable. And I wouldn’t have to worry about the Silverado flipping over all the time.


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Having just traded in a 2013 F150 5.0 with a bad engine for a new 2018 Ram 2500 with a Cummins, I can tell you that there is a world of difference. The remaining 2018's have 11K plus off sticker if that helps.

Now my 2 cents, have a high wall pop-up, close to 4K lbs. By the time we were packed and loaded up for a trip with 4 people and a loaded truck bed, it would do fairly well on flat ground, but once we started getting into the mountains, then I could tell a difference, sometimes more than others. There were a few mountain passes in Colorado where it would take dropping into 3rd and 4K+ RPM's to make it. As a daily driver, it was a good truck. 16ish in DFW traffic and 19-20 on the highway. I know the progressive years brought more HP & torque to the 5.0's and hopefully some better design/problem corrections.

If I wouldn't have lost all faith in Ford's engine design and looking to trade, I'd more than likely go with the 3.5 EB. I know there was a lot of problems in the early years 2011-2014 with water intake from the CAC and intercooler, but haven't heard anyone comment on that problem in years so I guess they got the problem fixed.


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"a lot of problems in the early years" is a bit of an overstatement. The reported problems were a very small percentage of units. If you look at the overall 8-9 year run, it has proven to be one of the most solid engines ever produced. Glad I can say that, at the time, I felt I was taking a gamble with my 2013.


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My work truck is a 3.5 EB 2014. 67K miles and no problems, believe me I’m not easy on it. My tow vehicle is a 2018 RAM Cummins and it is awesome.


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