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Posted: 05/02/19 07:36pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Tell him that you want the Class C now and when you get tired of it in a year or so, he can then sell you a Class A...........

Just for the view out of the front windows of Class A, I'd never own a Class C.

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I hate to agree with a salesguy but he is trying to do you a favor. In my personal experience Class C's drive and ride like a moving van. Class A's drive way smoother and nicer.

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IMHO, a good salesperson should just point out the features of a rig and help you decide what's important to you. If the salesperson is being so one sided, I tend to think it is to benefit his pocketbook!! Do your homework, get a different salesperson and/or shop elsewhere. In my experience, if you do your homework and research, you will end up knowing more about what you are looking at than the salesperson.

We looked at both class C and A rigs. For us, the class A was a better choice but there are some really nice class C rigs out there and if the driver/passenger seats rotate 180 degrees and you get auto levelers, you're very close to having a class A with other advantages such as easier access to engine for service and possible better handling on the road without aftermarket accessories needed.

I would suggest comparing storage compartments (exterior) and towing specs if you plan to buy a larger class C and tow a car or motorcycles on a trailer. We tend to take some longer trips and found our class A has more storage space. But...determine what will work for you!


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He's got all kinds of reasons


Besides storage and the hated driving of it .
Hated driving can mean a lot of different things.

Its all trade-offs that's why it needs to be what you want.
If it was between a gasser 'A' and gasser 'C', I opt for the 'C' .
Just watch your GVWR on larger 'C's. Some can be overloaded easily when you have large or multiple slides.

A long wheelbase diesel pusher is quiet, the tag axle is smooth, the air suspension is smooth, the cab is very roomy . Your passenger sits far away from the driver, you might end up having a "WHAT" contest because you can't hear each other. Not because it's noisy, because it's a further distance than a 'C' interior.
Problem is 45' is too big for me. Too restricted at campsites and parking lots etc. Its nice going down the highway but that's about it. You always have to call ahead and if boondocking in the woods is your thing...forget it.

What I have found is you need a unit that offers large enough capacities to fill your needs. Fresh water and holding tank size.

A floorplan that suits your needs. My DW likes to recline her seat while on the road, therefore we need a floorplan that allows that.


Drivers door ease or not. Some A's offer that. All C's do.

Class 'A's have flat side walls where its easier to see pulling out of driveways while looking back to your left to view traffic.
Class C's have a more narrow cab and a wider camper sidewall (widebody) which blocks your view. When driving a C you need to be closer to 90 degrees to the roadway while exiting a driveway. If you try to exit at a 45 degree angle your view is more limited. A unit with graduated flared sidewall ( Phoenix Cruisers etc) makes it easier plus it offers less drag.

Tires on a C are usually 16" A's can be 19.5" or 22's.

I have found a small 24' C to be my best rv because its easy to fit in campsites as well as easy to fit in most gas stations. Not only to gas up but for repairs that do not require a lift.
My car mechanic performs jobs on my class C at 1/2 the price of a truck shop or rv shop because he can physically fit it outside at his station where a larger 'A' is more difficult to fit. We use the rv hydraulic jacks to lift it off the ground for tire work. Solid ramps for oil changes.

Look into general insurance costs between the two. I have glass coverage of my 'C' cab which is harder and more costly to get on an 'A'.

I also like having an engine in front of me opposed to the flat class 'A' design.

I have a short wheelbase on my 'C' and had to spend some $$$ to upgrade shocks, rear track bar and customize the alignment etc .
Some people have to add more stout sway bars.
But people have to do alterations on some short wheelbase 'A's too.
Im not sure which is better or worse as far as handling. Both usually need to be tweaked.

Hope this helps, regards,
Bob

* This post was edited 05/03/19 07:54am by bobndot *

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I would tell that salesman straight out "I want a Class C, if you don't want to sell me one, find me someone who will, or I'll go somewhere else! " when we looked atRV's. I told my salesman right up front, "I will not look at or consider any Thor products, and I will not have any slides with a Schwintek system, so don't bother wasting my time or yours with those two items" he said "fine" and we went outside and looked at the Class C's and that was that


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It is going to depend upon WHY you started by saying you want a Class C. There are a lot of really nice Class C's out there but they won't work for me because of the smaller cargo carrying capacity both by weight and by storage bin size. Also wouldn't work because of the towing capacity for the toad. If the Class C's you are looking at will carry everything you want to carry and tow what you want to tow and you like the floorplan, then get a Class C. I like to listen to everyone regardless of whether I initially agree with them or not. We don't know what we don't know. More information gives us more things to consider that we may not have thought about on our own. You must make the final decision.


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He may be under pressure to move the Class A units off the lot, even the cheaper ones. Or he may truly believe that a Class A is better. But he's not you. You are. If you want a Class C, find someone who'll listen to what you want, and offer you useful guidance.

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BillHoughton wrote:

He may be under pressure to move the Class A units off the lot, even the cheaper ones.


^This. Class A's are WAYYY overstocked. At least on the west coast. I think their bread-and-butter customers have substantially gotten fed up with poor quality (and the hassles of a too-big coach), and are moving into Camper Vans in droves.


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There are pros and cons to both; it just depends on what YOUR use is going to be. I drove Cs for nearly 20 years, and they were fine. However, I'm now in an A, and would never (yeah right, never say never!) go back. The A provides much more interior space, much more storage, bigger tanks (fuel, water, black, grey, LPG), and more towing capacity. And within the first trip, I got used to the additional size, and much prefer the higher seating with better visibility. For ME, it's a no brainer.

BUT...I'm not you. You can listen to the salesman's reasoning, but don't let him convince you that certain "reasons" are more important than others. Only you can decide what's important and what's not.

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IB853347201 wrote:

I hate to agree with a salesguy but he is trying to do you a favor. In my personal experience Class C's drive and ride like a moving van. Class A's drive way smoother and nicer.
Whoa there, that is a huge generalization! I had a Class A (Coachmen Mirada) on Ford F53 chassis that would shake your fillings out! A truck suspension specialist I consulted was amazed the cabinets had not ripped out of the walls.
Sold that one and went for a fiver.


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