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LRFitch

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Posted: 05/07/19 07:40am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I have a 2008 Ford F250 crew cab short bed pickup with a GVWR of 10,000 lbs. Looking for a 26-30' toy hauler to use as travel trailer and haul several large RC airplanes (total weight about 250#). Most haulers we've seen have a GVWR of 13,000lbs, and a tongue weight of about 1400 pounds. What safety and legal concerns do we face relative to weight limits. Sorry if this sounds sketchy, but I'm a bit concerned about being across the country, and have my rig impounded, and me in jail.
I'll get the truck weighed today, as a start?

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To answer your question: No one is impounding RV's because they are overweight. As a recreational user, you don't have to go thru weigh stations and short of really bad gross negligence they will have no idea if you are over weight.

But looking at your post, I'm pretty sure you have your numbers mixed up.
- GVWR: The maximum weight of the individual unit (truck and trailer each have separate numbers)
- CGVWR: The maximum weight of truck and trailer combined.

There are a handful of other ratings that come into play also.

I can't say with certainty without the full details of your truck but most likely it would be fine and within the limits.


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Probably your biggest issue would be how much of the 250's payload would remain after adding the tongue weight of the toy hauler. Toy haulers typically are heavy on the tongue to accommodate for toys in the back of the toy hauler. If you go light you are not taking that much tongue weight off the tongue. Add to the tongue weight all the rest of the stuff you will have in the truck and people, dogs, etc and determine where you are with payload. A 250 with a GVWR of 10,000 pounds is certainly a heavy duty 250 or I think you might want to check your numbers. If your truck is a diesel the 13,000 pound toy hauler would not be an issue towing, if gas you might be getting to the limits depending on engine and axle ratio.


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You won't be within your tow ratings with those size haulers, if that is what concerns you.

I had a 2004 FS3000 Weekend Warrior. Triple axle, 30' box, 34' total.
My tongue weight with full water and no toys in the back was 1700lbs.
Tongue weight with no water and no toys was 1400lbs.

Total trailer weight with full water and 4 quads was 12,960lbs.

The receiver on my F250 was not rated high enough for that tongue weight, even with a WD hitch.
I was over the GVWR of my truck when hooked up and people in the truck.

Will the truck do it? All day long.
Will you be within the tow ratings of the truck? No.

I have been down this road.
Finally stepped up to a F350 dually and I don't have to worry about this stuff anymore.


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LRFitch I'm not aware of much attention to this in OR or WA, but a few years ago CA started cracking down on this. Some of the Toy Hauler guys in CA can chime in, but they also have difference licensing requirements.

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Y-Guy wrote:

LRFitch I'm not aware of much attention to this in OR or WA, but a few years ago CA started cracking down on this. Some of the Toy Hauler guys in CA can chime in, but they also have difference licensing requirements.


We kept hearing that guys were getting pulled over and their weight checked at Glamis but never got confirmation. Unless it's a special CHP unit with portable scales they would have no idea besides reading the sticker and that's "Gross"


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nayther wrote:

Y-Guy wrote:

LRFitch I'm not aware of much attention to this in OR or WA, but a few years ago CA started cracking down on this. Some of the Toy Hauler guys in CA can chime in, but they also have difference licensing requirements.


We kept hearing that guys were getting pulled over and their weight checked at Glamis but never got confirmation. Unless it's a special CHP unit with portable scales they would have no idea besides reading the sticker and that's "Gross"


The sticker has a rating, but it doesn't tell you anything about the weight, gross or otherwise.

valhalla360 wrote:

To answer your question: No one is impounding RV's because they are overweight. As a recreational user, you don't have to go thru weigh stations and short of really bad gross negligence they will have no idea if you are over weight.

But looking at your post, I'm pretty sure you have your numbers mixed up.
- GVWR: The maximum weight of the individual unit (truck and trailer each have separate numbers)
- CGVWR: The maximum weight of truck and trailer combined.

There are a handful of other ratings that come into play also.

I can't say with certainty without the full details of your truck but most likely it would be fine and within the limits.


The rating you are looking for is GCWR, aka, Gross Combination Weight Rating.

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LRFitch wrote:

I have a 2008 Ford F250 crew cab short bed pickup with a GVWR of 10,000 lbs. Looking for a 26-30' toy hauler to use as travel trailer and haul several large RC airplanes (total weight about 250#). Most haulers we've seen have a GVWR of 13,000lbs, and a tongue weight of about 1400 pounds. What safety and legal concerns do we face relative to weight limits. Sorry if this sounds sketchy, but I'm a bit concerned about being across the country, and have my rig impounded, and me in jail.
I'll get the truck weighed today, as a start?


This is one time you need to also look at the Dry weight of the TH or the Payload. Typically TH have substantial payloads, you 250# of RC planes will not make a dent in that.
Tongue weight is something you will need to look at, make sure your hitch is rated high enough for the tongue.

Depending on if TV is gas or diesel you should actually be within weights, diesel might be tight.


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twodownzero wrote:


The rating you are looking for is GCWR, aka, Gross Combination Weight Rating.


I can guarantee the GCWR is higher than 10,000lb for a 3/4 ton.

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Posted: 05/10/19 07:07am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Try looking at ATC. Expensive but incredibly durable and reasonable weight figures. I pull the flagship 28 front bedroom with a half ton nationwide.

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