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Posted: 05/21/19 05:06pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Standard 30-50 amp dogbone. Some places advertise "100 amp" Some actually have it. (Will explain) but the 100 comes from adding the two 50 amp legs together most of the time.. That is not 100 amp.. It's 50 amp. but Well I don't wish to get into a technical discussion

100 amp; will be 2 50 amp outlets if they are honest. 1 if they are not.


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"Do you need a 100Amp hookup? We have that, as well as 50Amp and 30Amp options."

http://www.bayoubendrvresort.com/

100 amp would be 2x 50 amp (NEMA 14-50 x2)


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Here's the reservation system listing for the site we were on at Crooked River State Park near St Mary's, GA last month. The stanchion was a typical 20,30,50 amp park setup.

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myredracer wrote:

It can't possibly be 100 amps if it's a CG/RV park. Code requires either a 30 amp at 120 volts or 50 amps at 120/240 volts (like in a house), or both on a site. Maybe they are incorrectly referring to a standard 50 amp site as 100 amps because a 50 amp pedestal/site has two hot legs that give you the same amount of power as 100 amps at 120 volts.

If you have a 30 amp RV, a standard RV 30 to 50 amp adapter is a good thing to have regardless. The receptacles in 30 amp pedestals can sometimes be in poor condition and you may need to plug into the 50 amps in a pedestal or move to another site with 50 amps.

Up until 2017, the code (NEC) only required a CG to have 20% of sites to be 50 amps (and only 5% in older CGs) and getting 50 amps can be difficult sometimes, if not impossible and 30 amps is usually what's mostly available.


I do not think that the NEC "requires" anything.

It is not a Federal Law.

"The National Electrical Code (NEC), or NFPA 70, is a regionally adoptable
standard for the safe installation of electrical wiring and equipment in the United States."

It is not, regardless of containing the word "National" a Federal Law.

Additionally, the NEC is really the minimum standard, you can be safer than the standard for safe installation. Like wearing a belt and braces.


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Maybe she'll come back now.

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D.E.Bishop wrote:

myredracer wrote:

It can't possibly be 100 amps if it's a CG/RV park. Code requires either a 30 amp at 120 volts or 50 amps at 120/240 volts (like in a house), or both on a site. Maybe they are incorrectly referring to a standard 50 amp site as 100 amps because a 50 amp pedestal/site has two hot legs that give you the same amount of power as 100 amps at 120 volts.

If you have a 30 amp RV, a standard RV 30 to 50 amp adapter is a good thing to have regardless. The receptacles in 30 amp pedestals can sometimes be in poor condition and you may need to plug into the 50 amps in a pedestal or move to another site with 50 amps.

Up until 2017, the code (NEC) only required a CG to have 20% of sites to be 50 amps (and only 5% in older CGs) and getting 50 amps can be difficult sometimes, if not impossible and 30 amps is usually what's mostly available.


I do not think that the NEC "requires" anything.

It is not a Federal Law.

"The National Electrical Code (NEC), or NFPA 70, is a regionally adoptable
standard for the safe installation of electrical wiring and equipment in the United States."

It is not, regardless of containing the word "National" a Federal Law.

Additionally, the NEC is really the minimum standard, you can be safer than the standard for safe installation. Like wearing a belt and braces.



Codes seem to be an absolute at RVnet, like gravity.

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Maybe she'll come back now.


Doubt it. Probably reading the NEC, its a big book.

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D.E.Bishop wrote:

myredracer wrote:

It can't possibly be 100 amps if it's a CG/RV park. Code requires either a 30 amp at 120 volts or 50 amps at 120/240 volts (like in a house), or both on a site. Maybe they are incorrectly referring to a standard 50 amp site as 100 amps because a 50 amp pedestal/site has two hot legs that give you the same amount of power as 100 amps at 120 volts.

If you have a 30 amp RV, a standard RV 30 to 50 amp adapter is a good thing to have regardless. The receptacles in 30 amp pedestals can sometimes be in poor condition and you may need to plug into the 50 amps in a pedestal or move to another site with 50 amps.

Up until 2017, the code (NEC) only required a CG to have 20% of sites to be 50 amps (and only 5% in older CGs) and getting 50 amps can be difficult sometimes, if not impossible and 30 amps is usually what's mostly available.


I do not think that the NEC "requires" anything.

It is not a Federal Law.

"The National Electrical Code (NEC), or NFPA 70, is a regionally adoptable
standard for the safe installation of electrical wiring and equipment in the United States."

It is not, regardless of containing the word "National" a Federal Law.

Additionally, the NEC is really the minimum standard, you can be safer than the standard for safe installation. Like wearing a belt and braces.



See ART #551 of the 2014 NEC. It does in fact cover the electric installation of RV parks. If the State adopts the NEC it is the law or you don't get to build it. Pretty simple. To get electricity you must get building permits etc. Power companies don't just hook up because you want it.

See NEC 551 part VI. 551.71.

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Where in the NEC code does it say you can't have 100 amps delivered to a pedestal with a 50 Amp RV receptacle on a 50 Amp breaker, 30 Amp receptacle on a 30 Amp breaker and 15/20 Amp receptacle on a 20 Amp breaker?

And all can be done with a 100 Amp main breaker, so, you can indeed have 100 Amp service.

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I do not think that the NEC "requires" anything.

It is not a Federal Law.

"The National Electrical Code (NEC), or NFPA 70, is a regionally adoptable
standard for the safe installation of electrical wiring and equipment in the United States."

It is not, regardless of containing the word "National" a Federal Law.

Additionally, the NEC is really the minimum standard, you can be safer than the standard for safe installation. Like wearing a belt and braces.
RVIA has "adopted" the NEC rules and the manufacturers do follow the rules, at least they should be. The only thing with that is not being an authority having jurisdiction, they can't enforce the rules, levy any penalties or modify the rules. RV parks on the other hand would have to comply with a local AHJ and NEC. Not sure where in an RV you'd want to do better than the min. NEC rules? Possibly in buildings, but not that often. The problem with electrical in RVs is substandard workmanship and there's little or nothing an RV owner can do about it.


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