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Posted: 06/09/19 06:44am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

We have committed to keeping our Excel for the forseeable future. We just can't find anything in our price range that is as well built. I have upgraded the suspension to MorRyde IS and a few other things that will hopefully help with its longevity.

A good, solid used unit is a very reasonable way to go, if you can find one and you may have. It all depends on how well it was maintained. Any of them will deteriorate without proper maintenance. Even though ours is a "garage queen" stored inside when not on the road, I still do an annual inspections of all the seams and screws. Leaks are the enemy of any rv. The first thing I would do if buying used would be look for any signs of water damage. Good luck.


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Thanks everyone for your comments and thoughts. I think right now my mind is set on looking newer than older. I am thinking I would maybe rather trade off the possibly better construction of an older unit for a new roof and some of the modern niceties as well as easier resale when the time comes.


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I'm convinced there are many new RVs coming right off the line with roof issues from the get go and the owner won't know it for years. I have seen multiple RVs going down the roof with a big air bubble under the roof membrane and how long will it be before the owner knows it and/or it does damage to the roof.
Also, the air conditioning hold down bolts are a huge source of leaks. So depending on the interior ceiling panel type and insulation, it could never show-up inside. Meanwhile the roof decking is rotting.
Any RV is a **** shoot regardless of price. Due diligence is required in maintaining them.
So just because its new certainly is no guarantee. Only good thing is the warranty but then good luck getting it in for warranty service.
I'm like JTrac…..committed to keeping ours. Its well built, I just installed the RV Flex Armor RV and I know the rig inside/out.

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garysol wrote:

Thanks everyone for your comments and thoughts. I think right now my mind is set on looking newer than older. I am thinking I would maybe rather trade off the possibly better construction of an older unit for a new roof and some of the modern niceties as well as easier resale when the time comes.
You know your starting out with new appliances, WH, A/C, and hopefully a more modern interior.

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JTrac wrote:

We have committed to keeping our Excel for the forseeable future. We just can't find anything in our price range that is as well built. I have upgraded the suspension to MorRyde IS and a few other things that will hopefully help with its longevity.

A good, solid used unit is a very reasonable way to go, if you can find one and you may have. It all depends on how well it was maintained. Any of them will deteriorate without proper maintenance. Even though ours is a "garage queen" stored inside when not on the road, I still do an annual inspections of all the seams and screws. Leaks are the enemy of any rv. The first thing I would do if buying used would be look for any signs of water damage. Good luck.
Excel was a very well built unit, went through their factory tour when they were still in business. Excel frames were some of the best I seen, very nice welds as well. I will probably replace my unit when the time comes with a used Excel or New Horizon . Like the Excel's with the hickory wood interior.

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garysol wrote:

So we have all heard the term "they don't make them like they used too".


Some would say the same thing about trucks.


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There are hundreds of myths that get spoken over and over so that they eventually get believed. Possibly "they don't make them like they used to" is one of them. It definitely is a myth when applied to cars, trucks, etc. I don't think RVs have ever been made with great precision.


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Our '04 Komfort was built hell-for-stout, with a non-LCI Zieman frame and full aluminum box with 16" on center studs. Only issues I had with it were aged graphics, aged caulk, and aged vent lids. Sun faded the interior a bit, but not too badly. Had a leak on the water inlet for the toilet, but if we turned the pump off when not in use, it was a non-issue. I half-seriously considered keeping the frame and having a new coach built on top. Given that it was a low-profile, I had to find the right buyer for it and really took it in the shorts, given that it was in d@mn good condition, overall.

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As time goes on, engineering and manufactureing processes should improve. However, the quality control has not. Manufacturers spend a lot of time on gliz, glammor and wieght reduction, and not enough time on quality control. RV's are hand built which makes quality control very difficult and time consuming. Therefore when buying a new unit one should pay attention to engineering, manfacturers choice of items and pre-delivery inspection. That will take a lot of home work which most people are not equipt to perform. If one is not familiar or experienced with RV construction, it would be wise to hire a consultant who is and work with them. After all RV are a large investment and one should treat it that way.....

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A related question I've pondered. Lets say that brand X is believed to be better "quality" than brand Y. But Y costs less and has desired features. What difference does the "quality" make to me. Heavier frame, cabinet doors, etc. After I've owned Y for 5 years, will I be having more problems or feel like its "cheap". I do believe that generally I'll get a better RV from Winnebago than "cheaper" units but I don't really know. We are pleased with our 2003 Winnebago bought used and feel it is quality;yet, we've spent plenty.

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