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Posted: 06/09/19 08:52pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Level 1 is 120 volt AC.
Level 2 is 208/240 volt AC.
Level 3 is 400+ volt DC.

Level 1 & 2 provide power to the on-board charger with standard alternating current.

Level 3 the charger is a large box the size of a fridge that uses 480v 3-phase power to provide the DC charging current. The vehicle communicates with this charger to set the charging power.


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pianotuna wrote:

Hi,

I'm pretty sure the Kona would accommodate level 3 (240 volt)charging--but I'll ask!

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Looking forward to your report Don.

One question. Does the EVSE the car comes with work on 120 and 240 volts or just 120.

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No. I know the car is capable of it. I’m asking about whether the EVSE that is included with the car is a 120 volts or 240 and/or 120volt. Many EVSE’s that are included with the car are just 120 and you have to buy an aftermarket 240 EVSE. I think the base Leaf is like that but the Eplus comes with the 240 volt EVSE. It will be in a bag in the trunk. Just look at the plug and see if there are adapters with it.

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MEXICOWANDERER wrote:

Towed at 70 mph how many kWh will you be generating?


At first I thought this was a strange question but the ability to turn regenerative charging on/off with a wireless remote would be very useful, especially to capture “free” energy on downhill grades. My question is how fast can it absorb energy in hp or kw.

Looking again I’m not sure if mex was asking about drag or thrust. Thrust on uphill grades would be nice but may cause stability problems.

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MEXICOWANDERER wrote:

Towed at 70 mph how many kWh will you be generating?
A bit of a guess but I think the number would be in range of 25 to 50 kW.

Although this is not really going to happen as no EV is rated to operate this way.

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To date, I have queried four different EV manufacturers about towing 4-down and all said it was not advised but could not say why. I know why hybrids don't like it.

One was a real engineer, and allowed as how it should not be damaging, but might void the warranty. It was he that I asked if the regenerative braking could be possibly be controlled remotely. He seriously thought I was joking and they I explained our position and issues.

Wouldn't it be nice to arrive at the end of the day's travel to a fully charged EV Towed??

Now we just have to get someone to listen. But I couldn't even save S&T or SA so I'm not going to dream.

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Hi time2roll,

Thanks!

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Level 1 is 120 volt AC.
Level 2 is 208/240 volt AC.
Level 3 is 400+ volt DC.

Level 1 & 2 provide power to the on-board charger with standard alternating current.

Level 3 the charger is a large box the size of a fridge that uses 480v 3-phase power to provide the DC charging current. The vehicle communicates with this charger to set the charging power.



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To date, I have queried four different EV manufacturers about towing 4-down and all said it was not advised but could not say why. I know why hybrids don't like it.

One was a real engineer, and allowed as how it should not be damaging, but might void the warranty. It was he that I asked if the regenerative braking could be possibly be controlled remotely. He seriously thought I was joking and they I explained our position and issues.

Wouldn't it be nice to arrive at the end of the day's travel to a fully charged EV Towed??

Now we just have to get someone to listen. But I couldn't even save S&T or SA so I'm not going to dream.

Matt


Well it wouldn’t take all day. Probably an hour or two. Regen in an EV is pretty strong. The regen tapers off after the battery is over 90 percent till it stops completely around 99. If you charge an EV to a 100 percent the lack of regen braking is really noticeable for the first 10 minutes. You actually have to use your brake pedal. Feels weird. [emoticon]

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An electric car in Canada? What's the range when the lakes are frozen over?


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An electric car in Canada? What's the range when the lakes are frozen over?


Generally speaking countries in Northern climates have greater uptake of EV’s than many southern countries. Over 55 percent of all vehicles sold in Norway are EV’s. In BC it is about 7 percent right now. Quebec probably a little more.

Hard to go back to a gasser after you have driven an electric thru the winter. Instant heat and always preheated by an app on your phone. So no frosty windows etc. Just get in and go. Great winter commuter cars.

Range is kind of irrelevant if your range is 5 times your daily commute.

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Reisender wrote:

Range is kind of irrelevant if your range is 5 times your daily commute.

But, range is very relevant if you have a long commute and are trying to decide on whether an EV is suitable for you.


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