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Hello to everyone,

We seek any advice that this community is willing and has time to spare to offer to two Italian families, both with one daughter (2 x 4 y.o.) who are renting and experiencing an RV holiday for their very first time.

We want to visit Grand Canyon or Yosemite or Yellowstone or other National parks in the US. We have 2 weeks (any time of the year).

The two little girls are friends and can sleep in the same bed but the two couples would prefer some intimacy (separate compartment?). Of course cost is a parameter and agility of the vehicle a big concern (only one of us has a lorry driving license but unsure if the International Driving Licence will endorse that permit).

We understand that our requirements are contrasting (two separate sleeping compartments vs agility) so we can compromise.

We seek advice on the best rental companies, vehicle size, options to ask for (we want 4 mountain bikes with seats for the little girls), and really any other advice, recommendation, items to consider, what's important and what is not, dangers, laws, regulations, etc., etc..

Basically anything that you would say to friends who are jumping into this experience for the first time and who find even know what questions to ask!

Thank you in advance for your time and expertise that you will share with us.

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Recommend putting off the trip for a few years until the children are older; more like 8+ years old. At their current ages they will get nothing out of the trip and the time it takes to keep them happy will detract from your enjoyment.


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Do you have any familiarity with the states? The National Parks are very majestic to be sure but it's mostly all pretty scenery. The vast expanses of the US are mind boggling to those of you from Europe. 2 weeks can be burned up in seeing just Yellowstone, The Grand Canyon and any of the parks in Utah. The big question you need to ask yourself is what kind of experience do you want to have. Do you want to drive long distances to see different landscapes or do you want to have some city type of entertainment at hand like visiting museums or brew pubs or wineries? What are your interests? The children are very young and will do what you do.


What type of RV are you thinking of renting? A large Class A motorhome or a larger Class C? There is no such thing a privacy in an RV really. They are just too small for much of that. Never having driven one before do you think you can handle driving it alright? Give us some more info on what you all enjoy doing.

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There 2 large RV rental companies in the US that may suit your needs,One is El Monte RV they have many choices in their RV rental Fleet both Class C and Class A.

There is also Cruise America they offer a smaller choice if RVs in their fleet.

First is to decide on the type of RV that will fill your needs,look at the floor plans of each type to help you decide on how to have your own space.

As stated before there is not to much privacy in a RV but if everyone gets along and can tolerate each other in cramped spaces this will make it enjoyable for all.


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Welcome to the forum! Not much privacy or separation in an RV. Sometimes there is a rear bedroom with a thin door between areas in a larger Class A RV. The front compartment would then have to accommodate one couple and the kids.

Is it doable, yes but a larger Class A will restrict where you can park it when sightseeing as I assume you will not have a rental car to drive as well. You may be better off to consider one small Class C rental RV for each couple. Easier to find parking when at sightseeing places where you need to get out to enjoy.
Expensive ...... yes.

RVing is a wonderful experience and if you can adjust to being very close in a small place when not outside, you could have a great trip. EL Monte RV and Cruise America, as stated above, are the biggest networks of rentals.

Did not see where you intend to go nor what time of year. Weather can adversely effect travel so be sure to add that to your planning phase. Extreme heat or cold creates issues for RV travel as well as sightseeing. RV Air conditioners tend to be not so efficient in high heat areas! Summer time on the roads in America can be very busy and even getting reservations for your overnight stays may require some considerable advance planning and obtaining.

Best of luck for a grand adventure exploring our beautiful and diverse country!

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I think the suggestion of two class C rentals is a good one. I would suggest you pick one area to concentrate on. Trying to do too much will just equal a lot of driving. This wont go over well with small children. Myself personally, I would choose the Grand Canyon area, and southern Utah. World class scenery. You could start in Las Vegas, or Phoenix. I have only done these in the winter months, but someone else might be able to suggest the best off season time to see these places. I would think after school starts in September, it would be less crowded, but the weather would still be nice. My second choice would be northern California and Yellowstone area.

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Our first RV experience was a rental. Two families. Each with 2 kids between 10 & 13. Two 30' class Cs rented. Two weeks rental starting & ending in Denver. We did a little over a 2000 mile loop, Denver, Colorado springs, S Colorado, Grand Canyon, Bryce Canyon, Hoover Dam, Vegas, Rocky Mtn Nat Park, Boulder & back to Denver.

At the end we were busted. Too little time trying to do too much. Besides travel days & jet lag you lose at least a day at the start picking up the RV & supplying it then another day on returning it.

Sure you can do the miles but have you allocated time to actually see where you are going. The Grand Canyon takes a full day. Bryce Canyon takes a full day doing both in a rush.


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My advice is to think about and plan what you might do in whichever of the destinations you decide on (they are all beautiful) and pair it back by between 1/3 and 1/2. Many people when they try to see everything don't get to spend enough time to take in the beauty and magnificent area they are in. They end up exhausted and partially frustrated.

Many of the nature types of things you may have to be in an area a while to have a chance in seeing some of the wildlife.

Research the weather carefully for the timeframe you are considering visiting. At higher elevations, it can be much colder than you expect in the summer time and in the spring and fall, snow is not unusual.

If you decide to go with one vehicle, erase the expectation of privacy unless you are talking about when you and your's may take a walk or do something separate from the other couple. 4 adults and 2 children in a 40' or less RV/Camper leaves little unused space. Might even want to spend a long weekend at a 2 bedroom Airbnb with this other family just to see how well you all love spending time together in close proximity.

Best of luck and hopefully the answers you get are raising more questions for you to ask. It's a great community here to offer advice.


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Dick_B wrote:

Recommend putting off the trip for a few years until the children are older; more like 8+ years old. At their current ages they will get nothing out of the trip and the time it takes to keep them happy will detract from your enjoyment.

You are offering very wise and practical advice. My friend (husband too) raised the very concern you just mentioned.

However, we are but the husbands in the equation. In Italy that has a very low ranking. Usually after the pet and the hairdresser.

Our wives begun arguing in such a way that we were considering a separate compartment or even a trailer for them two! [emoticon] LOL.

Jokes apart, we considerd what you pinted out but our wives would not have it. So the next best thing we came up with was to test the our daughters' resilience and behaviour over 3 to 5 days outings in a 7 seater Volvo with long hails in Italy (but we sleep in B&B).

So far the girls tend to become restless only when they become tired but seem perfectly ok during the day, for example, trekking. Short walks (hence the mountain bikes with baby seats) and long rests.

I know that it is not the optimum but we are only husbands... we don't call the shots!

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ken56 wrote:

Do you have any familiarity with the states? The National Parks are very majestic to be sure but it's mostly all pretty scenery. The vast expanses of the US are mind boggling to those of you from Europe. 2 weeks can be burned up in seeing just Yellowstone, The Grand Canyon and any of the parks in Utah. The big question you need to ask yourself is what kind of experience do you want to have. Do you want to drive long distances to see different landscapes or do you want to have some city type of entertainment at hand like visiting museums or brew pubs or wineries? What are your interests? The children are very young and will do what you do.

Your Parks are truly majestic and A M A Z I N G. We are more inclined towards nature.

ken56 wrote:


What type of RV are you thinking of renting? A large Class A motorhome or a larger Class C? There is no such thing a privacy in an RV really. They are just too small for much of that. Never having driven one before do you think you can handle driving it alright? Give us some more info on what you all enjoy doing.

These are EXACTLY the kind of questions that we need to ask ourselves but, in reality, we don't even know which these questions are.

So, let me answer your questions and pose a few more:

> We don't know what type of RV we should rent. We are posting here to get some ideas. Pls advice. We like privacy but understand that there will be very, very little. If possible, 2 separate sleeping compartments? Is it feasible/possible at all? We have never driven large lorries. Only large SUVs (I have driven main battle tanks and Hummers but, I guess, that that won't help us here) so another area where we need advice, and we know nothing about, is vehicle agility. We also need to strike a balance between cost/privacy/comfort. Please, can you offer some price/space parameters?

> We have no idea what a class A, B or C is/are. pls, can you explain?

> A bit of general info as you ask:
We like outdoors in general.
Perhaps fishing? Swimming for the little girls?
Mainly we hope to do some mountain biking in your Parks.
My friend is good with BBQ so lots of that.
We are not very interested in cities.
We will land in LA and fly out of LA.
We can do long drives as there are two of us.
We expect to ride on non paved roads.
We hope to rent an RV with shower, AC, oven/gas range, cooking set, fridge, TV with Netflix of Hulu/Vudu, (maybe even fishing rods?)...
Pls advise good extras/options to ask for.

I don't really even know what to write to ask for to look out for or prepare for.

Basically, tell us anything you would tell a first time renter...

Thanks for your time!

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