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advantages? convenience?? features???


Exactly. All depends on your needs. EV’s suit our needs much better and are more convenient. If your needs are better suited by a gasser that’s what you should buy. For our needs an EV is much more advantageous.

Bottom line, buy what you can afford and what suits your needs.

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Of course it all depends on your needs. And I’m talking about the on topic needs of someone with an RV. Not a commuter. Not someone going to get groceries. I’m talking about someone making a trip across the country towing A fifth wheel. A truck camper. A class C. A class a.. Any of these.

There is no way an electric vehicle would work for any of that.

Don’t get me wrong. If I had a house and was just going around grocery shopping, dropping off kids, going to a job. I would have solar panels on my roof and I would charge my electric car from that. Without a doubt.

But I am concerned that there will be some regulation coming soon that will require all vehicles sold to be electric. Or zero omission. What does that do for RVs? If you look in Europe, there are plenty of places RVs simply are not allowed because they are zero emission areas. This concept could come here very easily. Especially with all the hype about electric cars.

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rk911 wrote:

advantages? convenience?? features???


Exactly. All depends on your needs. EV’s suit our needs much better and are more convenient. If your needs are better suited by a gasser that’s what you should buy. For our needs an EV is much more advantageous.

Bottom line, buy what you can afford and what suits your needs.


i wasn’t clear. what advantages, conveniences and features?


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HadEnough wrote:

Of course it all depends on your needs. And I’m talking about the on topic needs of someone with an RV. Not a commuter. Not someone going to get groceries. I’m talking about someone making a trip across the country towing A fifth wheel. A truck camper. A class C. A class a.. Any of these.

There is no way an electric vehicle would work for any of that.

Don’t get me wrong. If I had a house and was just going around grocery shopping, dropping off kids, going to a job. I would have solar panels on my roof and I would charge my electric car from that. Without a doubt.

But I am concerned that there will be some regulation coming soon that will require all vehicles sold to be electric. Or zero omission. What does that do for RVs? If you look in Europe, there are plenty of places RVs simply are not allowed because they are zero emission areas. This concept could come here very easily. Especially with all the hype about electric cars.


Being an avid RVer and Diesel pusher driver I get your concern. I doubt you have much to worry about as I doubt there would be any legislation for 20 years or so. By then the technology will be well advanced and you won’t care about a gas or diesel vehicle...if you can find a manufacturer that sells them. Any manufacturer that doesn’t go full tilt into EV technology will have an ever decreasing market size as provinces states and whole countries tighten emmision laws. Voters are demanding it in more and more places. But an all out ban is a couple decades away. And if it’s anything like the laws that are currently being passed it only affects new vehicles. People will be allowed to run their old vehicles to normal lifespan. Cities may have stricter rules though. Both from the emmision and noise point of view. Cities with current EV only zones are very quiet.

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rk911 wrote:

advantages? convenience?? features???


Exactly. All depends on your needs. EV’s suit our needs much better and are more convenient. If your needs are better suited by a gasser that’s what you should buy. For our needs an EV is much more advantageous.

Bottom line, buy what you can afford and what suits your needs.


i wasn’t clear. what advantages, conveniences and features?


Advantages for us? A lot of it we just take for granted now. Here’s a few in no particular order that apply to us. I’m sure there are some I have missed.

- No wasted time at gas stations. Fuel at night while sleeping.
- No grabbing a gas pump handle after somebody else just scratched their (fill in the blank).
- Drive and forget no maintenance driving. (Well, washer fluid, wiper blades, brake fluid once in a while). No oil, filters, hoses, belts, plugs and brakes don’t get used much so very little wear.
- Very quiet ride. Model dependant though. We found bolt was a little louder.
- This one probably doesn’t apply to many if they don’t live in a winter climate. We have a single car garage so one of us use to always join the morning crowd of going outside, scraping windows, warming up the vehicle for 10 or 15 minutes. Now it’s just a click on a phone app and the car is toasty warm and windows are clear. Electtic cars heat up VERY FAST and no idling to do it. Same in summer. Pre cool from the phone. 5 minutes before you leave the mall hit pre-cool and things are nice and cool when you get there...again with no idling. We appreciate our EV’s more in the winter than any other season.
- Super quick with lots of quiet power.
- Our garage smells like any other part of the house. We always had a car smell with the Grand Cherokee and usually a few oil drips from somewhere.
- Our garage is unheated so can get cool. Pre warming in the garage presents no problems with fumes etc.
- Low centre of gravity makes it handle like a cat on carpet.
- fuel (electricity) is cheap but this depends where you live of course.
- We are not on a tight budget so this is relative but cost of driving is a fraction of the Grand Cherokee.
- We can drive in the HOV lanes although that’s only when we visit a neighbouring city which is 80 km away which is only a couple times a month.
-Tourist season is Brutal here and traffic tie ups are common. In summer temps the Grand Cherokee used to get REALLY HOT sitting in traffic with the AC on. EV’s are good in this type of situation. I’m sure not all gassers have that problem.

Half of the above are probably not important to some people but for us it’s made EV driving a big plus. I have nothing against gassers, they just don’t check the boxes like an EV does for us.

Buy what you can afford and buy what works for your needs.

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I'd buy a 1 ton electric truck in a second if it had no less than a 500 mile range while towing a travel trailer, at night, with the heater on and could recharge overnight in maybe 5-6 hours.

Seriously, take my money!
My Gasser just goes 175 miles before I need a fill. I would be happy with 250 towing range to allow for the extra distance between a fill-up.


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There were plenty of folks that kept their horses for a long while. They got over it in most cases.
The biggest surge you will see in electrics will be the autonomous cars that will pick you up at your door and drive you to the bar or whatever. Then there will be those suggesting far more people are drinking and doing weed. These cars well be the spearhead for the rest of the market as their experiences will build the market.


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Member with strong dislike to electric vehicles especially Tesla.


Lies and d(*&-n lies.

How could I have a "strong dislike to electric vehicles" when I OWN ONE!!!

I would appreciate it if you would stop telling lies about me Time and give me an apology for the lies you just told.

OP, I don't know how old you are put electric vehicles are a LOOOOOOOOG way off to becoming main stream. I follow this stuff pretty closely and will tell you LI batteries will never make it in a heavy duty situation.
You have a vehicle with no petrol tank?

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"There seems to be quite a push lately for zero emission vehicles and electric only vehicles."

"ZERO EMISSIONS", that's the biggest crock of "Barbara Streisand" I have ever heard!!!


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

"There seems to be quite a push lately for zero emission vehicles and electric only vehicles."

"ZERO EMISSIONS", that's the biggest crock of "Barbara Streisand" I have ever heard!!!


if that's the goal then fuel cell technology should've been the path.

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