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You must be delusional. The OP has a GRAND CHEROKEE, NOT a Truck. Besides, I want YOU in front of me if I rear end you with 10 gallons of gasoline sticking out the back of your truck. I would bet, Having Gasoline mounted like you have must be a violation of some Law, as long as being plain stupid. Ever hear of the Ford Pinto[emoticon] Doug


You know what blather like this always sounds like to me?

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dougrainer wrote:

Ever hear of the Ford Pinto[emoticon] Doug


Ever hear of “facts”? Look up the actual real-life crash data.

Ford built a little over 3 million Pinto's over the 10 years the car was in production, there was 117 lawsuits brought against Ford over the Pinto in total, and NOT all of those lawsuits were ‘the real McCoy’, a large number of them were ‘nuisance suits’.

Years after the fiasco blew over, UCLA law professor Gary T. Schwartz in a Rutgers Law Review article found that the incidence of Pinto deaths represented 1.9% of all "fatal accidents accompanied by some fire."

The Pinto also accounted for that same 1.9% of all cars on the road at the time. Implying the car was average for all cars and slightly above average for its class.

Yet people still think of a Pinto as a "death trap".

Urban myth and and ‘I knows it!!’ versus reality, reality wins EVERY time.

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Urban myth and and ‘I knows it!!’ versus reality, reality wins EVERY time.
Am I reading that comment backwards, or did you mean to say that urban myth wins over reality? Similar issue with the Corvair. Its handling problems got fixed and it was a good car, but was unsellable because of its pre-fix reputation.

If I may, an old joke: The worst place to be is stuck in a toll booth with a Pinto in front of you and an Audi (unintended acceleration reputation) behind you.


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Posted: 07/08/19 05:13pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I have 6 6v batteries and a brand new 3000w inverter and did EXACTLY THAT. Even with a Cat C7 and the batteries topped off (brand new batteries) I get 20-25 minutes and the inverter starts beeping. 35-40 minutes after that, it shuts down, batteries are down to 40%. Basically, not worth it. A HF 3500w generator is 699. Cheaper, easier, better.


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road-runner wrote:

JaxDad wrote:


Urban myth and and ‘I knows it!!’ versus reality, reality wins EVERY time.
Am I reading that comment backwards, or did you mean to say that urban myth wins over reality?


Nope, it’s correct. People can believe and spread the urban myths all they like, but that doesn’t change the reality of the matter.

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Here is a fun fact. The FIRST Major Lawsuit against the Pinto was filed by the Elkhart County District Attorney back in the 70's. He alleged Ford was liable because 3 young girls died in a rear end FIRE when a motorist rear ended their Pinto on a hi way. YES, Elkhart, Indiana where the majority of RV's are made. Elkhart won. Ford DID build a defective tank system, and the Retrofit recall(adding a Bladder to the fuel tank) was too little too late. Ford did its best to HIDE the fact of the fuel tank design and THAT was what caused Ford to lose Lawsuits. It WAS a Bad/dangerous design and the recall did fix the issue. But, with bad publicity, Ford had to drop the Pinto. Publicity that FORD CAUSED. he Corvair is a different type of design defect and was corrected by GM. But, too late to stop the decline is sales. Doug

PS, The design of that Truck is not what I take issue with. It was the fact that he thought a Grand Cherokee could be done the same way. I don't want Fuel cylinders or LP tanks mounted on the rear of vehicles. In Texas, ANY LP fuel cylinder mounted on the REAR of a vehicle is against State Law.

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JaxDad - Thanks for the explanation. Sometimes I can interpret the same thing two ways. This discussion reminds me of the gas tank in my mom's 1971 Ford Torino. The floor of the trunk was the top of the gas tank, and looking at it I thought the tank was actually a structural member of the car (I could be wrong, that's what it looked like to me). It seemed obvious to me that a rear end or rear quarter collision could easily split the tank. I never heard of any problems with it, it just looked like dangerous design to me. A fuel tank hanging on the rear of a vehicle gives me the same feeling.

* This post was edited 07/09/19 01:40pm by road-runner *

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Our 05 Ford F350 had dual alternators but only a 20 amp, big fuse, under the hood for the line to the Fifth Wheel or trailer or whatever you were towing. The wire was at least ten gauge, best I remember. I don't remember if both alternators worked together for the total load. One was 140 amp and the other 160 amp but I won't swear to it. Dealer let battery in RV go dead and tried to jack the Fifth Wheel up from the truck via the plug in. I installed heavy wiring instead of the meager stuff and plug found most commonly. It blew that big fuse and had a time finding one that day. Perhaps 5o amps or that motor, was required. I don't know if it would operate the a/c down the road or not. Someone do the electrical math. It can be done with large enough alternator and wiring or twin alternators. It is illegal for someone to ride in the Fifth Wheel or Trailer while being told, I read on these forums years ago though, if that is your thoughts.

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down home wrote:

Our 05 Ford F350 had dual alternators but only a 20 amp, big fuse, under the hood for the line to the Fifth Wheel or trailer or whatever you were towing. The wire was at least ten gauge, best I remember. I don't remember if both alternators worked together for the total load. One was 140 amp and the other 160 amp but I won't swear to it. Dealer let battery in RV go dead and tried to jack the Fifth Wheel up from the truck via the plug in. I installed heavy wiring instead of the meager stuff and plug found most commonly. It blew that big fuse and had a time finding one that day. Perhaps 5o amps or that motor, was required. I don't know if it would operate the a/c down the road or not. Someone do the electrical math. It can be done with large enough alternator ,at least two big batteries and preferable four and wiring or twin alternators. It is illegal for someone to ride in the Fifth Wheel or Trailer while being told, I read on these forums years ago though, if that is your thoughts.


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