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Posted: 07/04/19 12:55pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

our honda 1000i will get it's oil changed before we hit the road for Az. Not that hard but easy to have a little clean up. Not much of a chance It will be running but nice to keep it ready.

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profdant139 wrote:

OK -- now I get it. Suboptimal design is no big deal .........


Well, in my ever so humble opinion, it’s a more common issue than you think. At least based on my experience, it’s something that I’ve dealt with on so many small engines that the occasional good design gets my attention.

I’ve had many small engine driven devices that you couldn’t drain the oil without getting the used oil on stuff you really don’t want oil on (like belts). My Yamaha 1000 gen is just like your Honda, which is why I suggested the oil fill process I did. My Husqvarna lawnmower has no oil drain plug at all. If you do something less than brilliant like not get the dipstick cap twisted on right and you don’t notice that it was loose the whole time you were mowing the grass until you’re done, and you just KNOW dirt got down in there, you get to turn the lawnmower upside down to drain the dirty oil. My truck has the oil drain plug on the side of the oil pan instead of the bottom, and if you misjudge how far out the oil is going to shoot when you remove the plug you’ve got a big mess on the floor.

My tractor has a nice oil drain system. A valve rather than a plug, and a tube that stays connected to the valve to direct the old oil right into the pan without splattering.

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Cummins12V98 wrote:

Drain the engine, measure the exact ounces removed. Now add that exact same amount.


Nope.
What if the genny is burning oil?


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

Drain the engine, measure the exact ounces removed. Now add that exact same amount.


Nope.
What if the genny is burning oil?


Maybe next time you READ what i said. Maybe next time you quote you include EVERYTHING I said pertaining to the subject you are referring to!!!

THIS is what i said, THIS is what you should have quoted!!!

GOT IT????????

"More better way is to verify it's full before draining. Drain the engine, measure the exact ounces removed. Now add that exact same amount."


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My over fill/spill came filling first time when new. Mine was filled at factory, run/tested, then drained before shipping. I went by amount in manual, to fill, and second guessed a small amount of residual not drained at factory. I guessed right on after break in, when draining refilling, due to knowing exact amount, that was just a bit much. I did catch every last drop in my small pan, so yes, measuring the exact amount in pan would work well.

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" I did catch every last drop in my small pan"

THANK GOD!!!

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Drained mine today. First verified it was full. I propped up the back side to the point it almost tipped over. I had a pc of tin under the drain area. Had it up on a folding table. Drained into the measuring device filled it up with 13 OZ +old oil. Spec is 13.2 OZ. Cleaned out dispenser and refilled with 13 + OZ AMZ/OIL 15-40 Diesel Marine non LE oil.

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Posted: 07/06/19 12:50pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Been using my pair for years. Measure the amount I put in every time. Use a long funnel. Never thought to complain. Do in my neighbor's driveway, just in case. JK

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Seems as though every small engine has the same fill / level setup. Haven't you noticed your lawnmower is the same deal.


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Posted: 07/06/19 07:31pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I keep my drain pan handy, pour in what looks like enough new oil, tip er back level if any overage I drain it inta the pan. I package the wasteoil forproper disposal then clean up the drain pan and sneak it back inta the kitchen.

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