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openspaces I have never heard of static electricity from a plastic container, but since I would never dream of plastic being able to carry a charge. however since you have evidently had proof and first hand knowledge of this, from now on just too be safe I will always put my containe3rs on the ground just too be sure. It's not worth it to chance messing up a trip not counting the possible pain and destruction just because I was too lazy to lift a tank and put it on the ground this will also go for my boat tanks. Thanks for the info. I really appreciate it.


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https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/98-111/pdfs/98-111.pdf?id=10.26616/NIOSHPUB98111
CDC has heard of plastic gas tanks with static charge


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you might be struck by lightning while refueling too. How many have ever seen a hose leak?? Been driving 50 years and that's a 1st for me.


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I guess I am in the minority, but I close the propane line at the TT just before starting underway. I never drive with propane turned on.

We keep the fridge closed until we get to that night’s destination and then either plug in shore power or turn on the propane, whichever is the case at the next campsite. The contents stay cold. So many things can happen while underway, so why add to the turmoil should we get into an accident and somehow the open propane line gets cut?

To each his own, but it seems like common sense to me.


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seaeagle2 wrote:

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/98-111/pdfs/98-111.pdf?id=10.26616/NIOSHPUB98111
CDC has heard of plastic gas tanks with static charge
I don't have a plastic or carpeted bed liner so I'm good to go.





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jamesu wrote:

To each his own, but it seems like common sense to me.
wouldn't common sense indicate you also shouldn't drive to your destination, which is hundreds of times more dangerous then keeping the propane on?

Which just goes to say you have selective common sense, just like the rest of us; some dangers you accept and some you choose to ignore.

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Just because it hasn't happened to you yet, doesn't mean it won't or can't happen. A few years back, in our neighboring county, a gas station was destroyed and and employee lost his life when an RV refrigerator ignited a gasoline spill that the employee was trying to mitigate. The ignition source was confirmed by witnesses and the police investigation.

So for those of you that are basically saying, "I'll do what I want to do, heck with everyone else", I would ask you how you would feel if your actions cost someone their life?

Unlikely, yes. Possible, definitely.


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Link? I always hear this type of story, but I don't think I've ever seen it actually corroborated.


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TurnThePage wrote:

Link? I always hear this type of story, but I don't think I've ever seen it actually corroborated.


I wish I could provide a link; I actually looked before posting this because I knew folks might be skeptical or dismissive. But this happened sometime, to the best of my recollection, between 1999 and 2003. It was in Wythe County, VA at a station off an exit ramp of I-81. "Googling" what I know only turns up some more recent unfortunate gas station incidents in Virginia, but these are not RV related. I was working at the time with two of the firefighters who worked this incident, who I trust completely, and I remember reading for myself the news accounts of this event when it happened and then a little later when the unfortunate gentleman died. I also remember that this whole scenario was being debated here on RV.net even back then, and it caught my attention because I thought to myself, "Well, that proves it can happen". I am not sure there are links to the average news stories at the beginning of the century; maybe someone slicker than I am can find it in an archive of the local paper, The Roanoke Times?.

Vapor density (gasoline vapor being heavier than air) is only part of the equation; who among us hasn't smelled gasoline vapor while standing at full height at some time in their life? Anyone who has been in emergency services for a while will tell you that most catastrophic incidents don't have one single direct cause; there is usually a whole series or chain of events that lead to an incident. I certainly don't want to be one of the contributing factors in the injury or death of someone else, especially if I know better and can do something to prevent that possibility. I understand that others may not see the risk as significant enough to worry about, but I do.

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Yet another advantage of a residential fridge.

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