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Lantley

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RickLight wrote:

Lantley wrote:

If your trying to take advantage of the additional 20 amp outlet I suggest:
RV safe power transfer switch. Works with GFI outlets

The RVsafepower switch allows me to use both A/C's on 30 amp sites.


Their web site is malfunctioning. But from what I can see I wouldn't dream of using one of those. 2 AC's drawing 10-15A each can run on 30A, assuming you can get them started.

If a pedestal has only 30A of 120V then nothing can get more power. You can cheat the safety margins, overheat the wires, and risk damaging the entire campground system.

There are no techno devices to get around the laws of physics.


Typically the pedestal has a 30 amp and 20 amp outlets available.
Seldom is there only a 30 amp only outlet, although I have seen a few.
The transfer switch allows you to "cheat" or make use of that additional outlet, to power the 2nd A/C.
It works very well.


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^^what Lantley said.
Most all 30 amp pedestals I have used have 2 breakers- a 30 amp and a 15 or 20 amp. That 45 or 50 amps available. The gfci outlet does not share breakers with the 30 amp outlet. So no laws of physics being broken here.

BTW Lantley that is a much better cheater plug you linked. I have used the one from the OPs post and it is indeed limited to use at the house.

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Lantley wrote:

Typically the pedestal has a 30 amp and 20 amp outlets available.
Seldom is there only a 30 amp only outlet, although I have seen a few.
The transfer switch allows you to "cheat" or make use of that additional outlet, to power the 2nd A/C.
It works very well.


Typically they aren't additive. It gets back to how the place is wired, but just because there are outlets doesn't mean you can load them all full at the same time.


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RickLight wrote:

Lantley wrote:

Typically the pedestal has a 30 amp and 20 amp outlets available.
Seldom is there only a 30 amp only outlet, although I have seen a few.
The transfer switch allows you to "cheat" or make use of that additional outlet, to power the 2nd A/C.
It works very well.


Typically they aren't additive. It gets back to how the place is wired, but just because there are outlets doesn't mean you can load them all full at the same time.

I understand your point. I also own an RV Safepower switch. I have used it successfully quite a few times. While I understand it's possible that the wiring will not accommodate the switch. I have yet to be on a 30 amp site where my transfer switch has not worked. So far I am batting a 1000 which is good enough for me.
Those that have not actually used the transfer switch or experienced the benefits of the switch first hand can draw an conclusions they like.
For me so far it's worked 100% of the time.
The switch has changed my camping itinerary and allowed me to use state parks again. Places I had avoided, do to only having 30 amp sites are now back on my agenda. Having the ability to run both AC's on a 30 amp site is a game changer.

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