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tbecker82 wrote:

I really appreciate all the advice guys. It's good to hear from people who have more experience on these things than I do.

And I am looking at used trucks, my budget is 45k but I would like to come in under that. Ive seen 6.2s with around 50k miles going for 32k-36k. More if it's a 2015+. The diesels are starting at 40k and going higher. On the diesel I was looking at trucks with under 100k miles.

As far as elevation I'm sure we'll spend time in Colorado for a few weeks, but I doubt it will be for months. I like the price of the gasser, but like the capabilities and range of the diesel. I know, you got to pay to play.


For $45k you can buy a new Ram Tradesman CTD.


Not sure I would want to drive all around the US in a Tradesman, I like power seats and more information display, and comfortable seats.


Lol, you went from a soon to be classic truck to a new one a couple months ago and now a new "Tradesman" wouldn't be up to your discerning standards?
Some folks just make a guy laugh.


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tb82, I did not read through all the posts, but can give you some food for thought on the aux gas tank in the bed. Sure you cannot doa a gravity feed. however on mine i installed a typical 12 in line fuel pump between the aux and the main filler neck. Draw the gas from the tube in the top of the tank that has the pick up from the bottom. Put a veton 12 vol normally closed valve between the outlet of the fuel pump and the inlet to the filler neck. Power those two puppies up to a switch like the upfitter in the Ford. So you can flip the switch and replenish the fuel in the main when you want to. Since the fuel valve closes the Ford fuel system is shut when not refueling, I did an open vent on the aux and down through the bed with and in line filter since i am paranoid about having an open vent to the tank..

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Grit dog wrote:

rhagfo wrote:

FireGuard wrote:

tbecker82 wrote:

I really appreciate all the advice guys. It's good to hear from people who have more experience on these things than I do.

And I am looking at used trucks, my budget is 45k but I would like to come in under that. Ive seen 6.2s with around 50k miles going for 32k-36k. More if it's a 2015+. The diesels are starting at 40k and going higher. On the diesel I was looking at trucks with under 100k miles.

As far as elevation I'm sure we'll spend time in Colorado for a few weeks, but I doubt it will be for months. I like the price of the gasser, but like the capabilities and range of the diesel. I know, you got to pay to play.


For $45k you can buy a new Ram Tradesman CTD.


Not sure I would want to drive all around the US in a Tradesman, I like power seats and more information display, and comfortable seats.


Lol, you went from a soon to be classic truck to a new one a couple months ago and now a new "Tradesman" wouldn't be up to your discerning standards?
Some folks just make a guy laugh.


Lifestyle creep I guess. You couldn't carry on a conversation in his old truck going down the highway. Now a new Tradesman doesn't enough features or good enough seats. That payload sticker didn't used to mean much either, but it sure does now. People are definitely funny creatures.


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Lifestyle creep I guess. You couldn't carry on a conversation in his old truck going down the highway. Now a new Tradesman doesn't enough features or good enough seats. That payload sticker didn't used to mean much either, but it sure does now. People are definitely funny creatures.


When I test drone a Tradesman a few years back the seat was like sitting on a apple crate, even compared to the 2001.5 SLT we had at the time. Reminded me of the 1980's Suzuki Vitara we test drove.


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IdaD wrote:

I live out west and have a similar weight fifth wheel and I wouldn't be very happy with a gas truck - going uphill or down. That said, a gas truck will certainly pull that weight without causing any damage barring road rage from somebody who gets stuck behind you on a long two lane ascent with no passing lanes.

450 HP vs 385 HP pulling 10,500 GVWR trailer is not going to put you in road rage situation. FUD meter is pegged.


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IdaD wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

rhagfo wrote:

FireGuard wrote:

tbecker82 wrote:

I really appreciate all the advice guys. It's good to hear from people who have more experience on these things than I do.

And I am looking at used trucks, my budget is 45k but I would like to come in under that. Ive seen 6.2s with around 50k miles going for 32k-36k. More if it's a 2015+. The diesels are starting at 40k and going higher. On the diesel I was looking at trucks with under 100k miles.

As far as elevation I'm sure we'll spend time in Colorado for a few weeks, but I doubt it will be for months. I like the price of the gasser, but like the capabilities and range of the diesel. I know, you got to pay to play.


For $45k you can buy a new Ram Tradesman CTD.


Not sure I would want to drive all around the US in a Tradesman, I like power seats and more information display, and comfortable seats.


Lol, you went from a soon to be classic truck to a new one a couple months ago and now a new "Tradesman" wouldn't be up to your discerning standards?
Some folks just make a guy laugh.


Lifestyle creep I guess. You couldn't carry on a conversation in his old truck going down the highway. Now a new Tradesman doesn't enough features or good enough seats. That payload sticker didn't used to mean much either, but it sure does now. People are definitely funny creatures.


Not really Lifestyle Creep, the 2001 Ram was also a Laramie, about only options not on it were leather and alarm. Power seats, power windows, power steering, remote power door locks, power heated mirrors Camper and Tow package. I just got the same trim level with more trim! So now DW also has a power seat, and seat memory, nice stereo system just like the 2001.
I never liked towing over GVWR, while the 2001 did very well and was within axle and tire ratings.
We full time so the Ram in our only vehicle, so we enjoy the creature comforts.
I also test drove a 2018 Tradesman 3500 SRW, it wasn’t a $45K version had some features like the HO and Aisin, but no Power Seat which was a deal killer for me, lowest trim to get power seats (drivers only) was SLT and that is an option.

* This post was edited 07/14/19 08:04pm by rhagfo *


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Dave H M wrote:

tb82, I did not read through all the posts, but can give you some food for thought on the aux gas tank in the bed. Sure you cannot doa a gravity feed. however on mine i installed a typical 12 in line fuel pump between the aux and the main filler neck. Draw the gas from the tube in the top of the tank that has the pick up from the bottom. Put a veton 12 vol normally closed valve between the outlet of the fuel pump and the inlet to the filler neck. Power those two puppies up to a switch like the upfitter in the Ford. So you can flip the switch and replenish the fuel in the main when you want to. Since the fuel valve closes the Ford fuel system is shut when not refueling, I did an open vent on the aux and down through the bed with and in line filter since i am paranoid about having an open vent to the tank..


Thank you very much Dave, that is some great information.
If you have some pump recommendations or even what aux tank you went with I would appreciate it.

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I haven’t read all the reply’s but I would go with a gas HD truck. Unless you are buying a pre DEF truck I wouldn’t want the hassle of being stuck in the side of the road for hours waiting to be towed somewhere. Because of current emissions the new diesels are not as reliable as they used to be. Give me a gasser over a diesel. I’ll take the hit on fuel mileage knowing I’ll make it to my destination.


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RDS and JME are 2 mfgs I know that make DOT certified tanks that are specifically called out for hauling gasoline.
Use an explosion proof pump.

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If you get a gas truck, skip the in bed tank.... go with a larger capacity tank that replaces the factory tank. I think Transfer Flow makes them, so does Titan Tank.

If I were doing a trip for that length of time and distance, I'd go diesel.


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