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Thanks for all the info guys. Today I started contacting dealers within a 600 mile radius for pricing. I am willing to travel for the right deal.I am sure a good deal will come along and I am very patient.

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fly4fun wrote:

Thanks for all the info guys. Today I started contacting dealers within a 600 mile radius for pricing. I am willing to travel for the right deal.I am sure a good deal will come along and I am very patient.


One thing I found during my 2 year search for a new FW, was that a lot of dealers are using Craigslist, RVTrader and RVT. With Craigslist, there is a nice tool that will search =every= CL listing, including Canada and Mexico. It's called Searchtempest and is very flexible on search filters. If you've got enough RAM in your computer, you can open every location at once, search through any results, then close each tab as you finish it. It will also search evil-bay, too. One thing that helps is knowledge of Boolean search logic as that will cut down on a lot false hits.

False hits are one of my biggest complaints with RVTrader. You search for a specific model and it will return many other results. RVT, OTOH, almost never returns falses, though it's much smaller.

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DallasSteve wrote:

An additional thought:

Grand Design seems to be different that most travel trailer brands. They seem to have a contract with the dealers that they are not allowed to advertised discount prices. We can assume this is so Grand Design can rip off their customers as much as possible. In the travel trailer market discounts of 25% to 35% off MSRP is normal. I think this is also true for Grand Design, but I'm not sure.

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Please explain why not advertising discount pricing is a way for GD to rip off customers as much as possible?

Any buyer can contact any dealer and receive a discounted price off MSRP. Different dealers equal different discounts. I can't see how a manufacturer would make any more off a trailer that is eventually sold to the customer at MSRP or heavily discounted.

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DallasSteve wrote:

An additional thought:

Grand Design seems to be different that most travel trailer brands. They seem to have a contract with the dealers that they are not allowed to advertised discount prices. We can assume this is so Grand Design can rip off their customers as much as possible. In the travel trailer market discounts of 25% to 35% off MSRP is normal. I think this is also true for Grand Design, but I'm not sure.

Steve



If a dealer is telling you that or posting it in their ads they're just lying. It's dealer BS.

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I just got a quote for 30% off a 2019 Reflection FW, is this a decent discount, since the 2020's are out.

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I went to McClains in Denton last year and looked at some models. They didn't seem eager to negotiate, but I never got that far. I decided to postpone the purchase. My suggestion is browse the models you can see around the country on websites like RV Trader. I think you can see discounted prices on new 2019 Grand Design models that are still in stock. Then call or visit McClains and tell them you are ready to buy at X dollars, or be willing to travel to another dealer hours or days away to get a better deal.


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The ad you posted was for a 2019. As I said in my earlier post (quoted above) I see discounts on 2019 models, but not 2020 models. You may also be able to get a discounted price on 2020 models if you call or write the dealers, but I haven't seen any advertised discounted prices on 2020. Have you?

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If GD dealers were allowed to post discounted prices it would make it easier to search for the most discounted price across the nation and then bargain against that with you local dealer. By taking that option away from the consumer it makes it more likely they will overpay (what I call "rip off").

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Yes, I expect that if you call or write a GD dealer (especially call) they will start negotiating the price, even for 2020 models. My earlier comment is directed towards dealers' advertised prices on new models. As to your question, I think a 30% discount on a GD is very good, but I wouldn't take it without doing a little more comparison shopping.

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DallasSteve wrote:

I went to McClains in Denton last year and looked at some models. They didn't seem eager to negotiate, but I never got that far. I decided to postpone the purchase. My suggestion is browse the models you can see around the country on websites like RV Trader. I think you can see discounted prices on new 2019 Grand Design models that are still in stock. Then call or visit McClains and tell them you are ready to buy at X dollars, or be willing to travel to another dealer hours or days away to get a better deal.


BillyBob Jim

The ad you posted was for a 2019. As I said in my earlier post (quoted above) I see discounts on 2019 models, but not 2020 models. You may also be able to get a discounted price on 2020 models if you call or write the dealers, but I haven't seen any advertised discounted prices on 2020. Have you?

dryfly

If GD dealers were allowed to post discounted prices it would make it easier to search for the most discounted price across the nation and then bargain against that with you local dealer. By taking that option away from the consumer it makes it more likely they will overpay (what I call "rip off").

garyp

Yes, I expect that if you call or write a GD dealer (especially call) they will start negotiating the price, even for 2020 models. My earlier comment is directed towards dealers' advertised prices on new models. As to your question, I think a 30% discount on a GD is very good, but I wouldn't take it without doing a little more comparison shopping.

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If GD dealers were allowed to post discounted prices it would make it easier to search for the most discounted price across the nation and then bargain against that with you local dealer. By taking that option away from the consumer it makes it more likely they will overpay (what I call "rip off)

You are missing a very important point:
If the consumer overpays...that’s the consumer’s fault.


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DallasSteve wrote:



If GD dealers were allowed to post discounted prices it would make it easier to search for the most discounted price across the nation and then bargain against that with you local dealer. By taking that option away from the consumer it makes it more likely they will overpay (what I call "rip off)

You are missing a very important point:
If the consumer overpays...that’s the consumer’s fault.

How do you know you over paid?

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DallasSteve wrote:



If GD dealers were allowed to post discounted prices it would make it easier to search for the most discounted price across the nation and then bargain against that with you local dealer. By taking that option away from the consumer it makes it more likely they will overpay (what I call "rip off)

You are missing a very important point:
If the consumer overpays...that’s the consumer’s fault.

I don't think I'm missing that point. But you make it sound like it's 100% the consumer's fault. I disagree. It's 50/50. GD is trying to get the consumer to overpay and that is their fault. That is normal. That's business. I'm just pointing out that they are using that trick to try to get the consumer to overpay. Buyer beware.

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