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Not meant to be controversially......Our elected politicians, both parties, are not taking care of these problems. They devote all their efforts to getting re-elected.


I think there are differences in philosophy as to the environment between parties.

The previous administration restored funding for national parks that were cut due to the Great Depression and economic crisis.

California included increased funding for state parks as a result of its economic recovery and 4 years of surplus. Washington state and Oregon have excellent well-maintained state parks with topnotch camping facilities.

And before anyone accuses me of belonging to a party, I am an small "I" independent.


Michigan also has nice, well maintained state parks and campgrounds. Don't use them but I do fish the Muskegon River from one of them.


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Florida which is not a blue state has some of the best parks in the nation. And they are expanding the number of parks faster than we can visit them. Plus they have been busy rebuilding the cg to be FHU. And you don't have to take out a second mortgage to camp in one like California.


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... giving the agencies, not the Congress the power to manage the funds will be the biggest help.


Seems they've actually put the fox (head of agencies) to guard the henhouse.

The head of agencies and secretaries appointed were the ones who used to work for the companies they are supposed to regulate. How many secretaries have resigned for embarrassing scandals and corruptions.


Better to have a supposed Green expert who has never actually lived off a patch of blacktop run them?


Sure, like the recent appointment to Parks & Wildlife.

A lawyer, seriously, know more about our parks and wildlife?

Oh yeah, she probably knows. She spent her entire career fighting the government about public lands, endangered species and wildlife.

In fact her latest client was Bundy who owes the government millions in unpaid pasture leases on public lands that he want to keep as his own and won't permit rangers to go in.

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And as an example, the prior administration placed Johnathon Jarvis in place.
Lifetime employee of the parks, had the appropriate background, but allowed the parks to be weaponized as a propaganda and budgeting tool.

There is no perfect method because under any process someone will find a way to circumvent it.
Its like searching for the perfect spouse, while you may absolutely love and adore them, someone will find fault.

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Not meant to be political, yet the park you mention is in a state with a huge set of it's own problems. We visit Yellowstone, Grant Tetons, and Glacier often. They have a great system setup for camping, checking availability, and it seems to be working.


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Not meant to be political, yet the park you mention is in a state with a huge set of it's own problems. We visit Yellowstone, Grant Tetons, and Glacier often. They have a great system setup for camping, checking availability, and it seems to be working.


National parks are being managed by the federal government.

Be specific to the state problems and how are they related to the national park.

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Your concern seems only with the Executive Branch. You should also be contacting Congress members.


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Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

Again, this is not political.

Just recently been to one of the most popular national park and the results of funding cuts (7%), fund diversion ($22 million for the frivolous July 4 parade) and distorted priorities or even hostility towards the environment (area around Sequoia National Park are set to be opened for oil explorations).



Your post has significant political content!!!!!

What you apparently don't realize, that the National Park Service has many more responsibilities than just supplying amenities for visitors. Actually, you will find that most parks budget for visitor services is a small fraction of their total budget. Many parks actually find visitors to impeded their mission!

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The OP chooses to be partisan, the opening post containing "($22 million for the frivolous July 4 parade)" is an example. There are how many parks? And there is how much money available in a general fund?
It did not all come from his one chosen park. Yet that seems to be where he wants to claim it.
The parks are always going to be a difficult issue. Urban , inner city dwellers , who have no idea whats outside the city limits, or a desire to find out, will always want every nickel to go to rent assistance or mass transit, or whatever happens to cross their "whats trending" list. Most folks here would prefer to see more go to the rural areas. Some want to be so anal as to demand total control of every penny to ensure it ONLY goes to their pet project. But none will get all the things that they want.

We are an imperfect people, doing our best to wade through an imperfect system, to create a somewhat better world.

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Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

..... even hostility towards the environment (area around Sequoia National Park are set to be opened for oil explorations)......
So there will be oil exploration outside of the park and how is the park supposed to disallow or fight that?

Was just at Yosemite and Sequoia and the conservation efforts to preserve nature, provide visitor services and restore or improve sections of the park seemed to be working.


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