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My guess is fuel pump also. Breakdowns are no fun.
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That's pretty funny. This isn't 1950. "Bad gas" is a thing of urban legend anymore. I have yet to find ANYONE that has actually gotten "bad gas" when buying it at any commercial retailer.
They always know somebody that says they got bad gas or heard of somebody that got bad gas like their sisters boyfriends dads uncle in Alabama. [emoticon]

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Cobra21 wrote:

My guess is fuel pump also. Breakdowns are no fun.
Brian


That's pretty funny. This isn't 1950. "Bad gas" is a thing of urban legend anymore. I have yet to find ANYONE that has actually gotten "bad gas" when buying it at any commercial retailer.
They always know somebody that says they got bad gas or heard of somebody that got bad gas like their sisters boyfriends dads uncle in Alabama. [emoticon]


Most people do not understand the enforcement of EPA regulations, where gas leaking from a tank can and will lead to massive fines has as a side benefit reduced the contamination of gas from stuff leaking in.
For the first 5-6 years I had my last pickup I treated it like I had others for years, when low on gas, fill it up. Then one trip I hooked to the camper with 3/4 tank of gas that had been in the tank for about 3 months. Truck ran, but spent a lot of time in lower gears. Stopped when 1/2, filled, ran better. Filled again at half, more improvement. Now, unless I'm going out of town, when it gets to 1/4, I put in 5 gallons. If we don't go camping that will last a month. That way, when ready to hook up I can take on at least 15 gallons of fresh gas, and she does better.

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And the diagnosis is....
No fuel pressure, power and ground to fuel pump good. Diagnosis bad fuel pump.


Murphys Law dictated that...because your tank is plum full of fuel!

Oh well, i't about a horse a piece whether you take the bed off or drop the tank. Removing the bed just requires more hands.
Glad you got er diagnosed and relatively cheap/simple repair.


Talk of Murphy's Law. Fuel pump went out on DW's S10 with about 70,000 miles on it. I dropped the tank to replace, and while I had it down I measure from center of pump to mount marks, transferred measurements to bottom of bed, and drilled a 1/8th inch hole. Next time that pump fails I will put a door in the floor. We sold that truck with just under 200,000 miles, and I never had to change the pump again.

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TravelinDog wrote:

Cobra21 wrote:

My guess is fuel pump also. Breakdowns are no fun.
Brian


That's pretty funny. This isn't 1950. "Bad gas" is a thing of urban legend anymore. I have yet to find ANYONE that has actually gotten "bad gas" when buying it at any commercial retailer.
They always know somebody that says they got bad gas or heard of somebody that got bad gas like their sisters boyfriends dads uncle in Alabama. [emoticon]


It certainly is a thing. My 2015 Turbo Malibu, at the local Texaco. Affected 10 other cars, plus the stores owner, covered by their insurance.
Filled up drove 5 miles, car stopped, crank and no start. It was 6 months old. Had it towed to the dealer. 550 dollars to fix it. They kept a sample. Mostly water. Went to where we filled up. Owner admitted it affected his Lexus and at least 10 other cars before they closed the pumps. They had just had maintenance which allowed a large amount of water in the system. Costco about 2 years ago here in Washington had a similar problem. The paid to fix as I recall about 120 cars affected before it was caught.

Here is a new article, this was similar to what happened to my car.
Bad gas June 2019
You are right it isn't 1950 where you got bad gas, dumped it and moved on. Bad gas will mess pretty bad with an EFI or Direct injected car.

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For the first 5-6 years I had my last pickup I treated it like I had others for years, when low on gas, fill it up. Then one trip I hooked to the camper with 3/4 tank of gas that had been in the tank for about 3 months. Truck ran, but spent a lot of time in lower gears. Stopped when 1/2, filled, ran better. Filled again at half, more improvement. Now, unless I'm going out of town, when it gets to 1/4, I put in 5 gallons. If we don't go camping that will last a month. That way, when ready to hook up I can take on at least 15 gallons of fresh gas, and she does better.


True story ^. Although I'd liken it to old gas not bad gas. Although it does happen, the only bad gas I've gotten in many years is from gettin real durnk the night before or sometimes Mexican food! lol
Quality of fuel, age of fuel and ethanol content for stored fuel is real.
One of the old wives tales about filling the fuel tank on stuff before storage to prevent condensation build up is , well a wives tale unless we're talking an old John Deere parked in the snow all winter with a crappy metal tank and a crappy metal gas cap.
I'll take an empty or mostly empty tank during storage in everything I own with an engine along with the condensation "risk" over a full tank of 6-12 month old gas. Period unless gas is non ethanol stabilized, race fuel or avgas.
And if one is worried about condensation, fill with a tank of 10% ethanol and let er rip. It's like adding 3 cans of HEET to the tank.


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Not bad gas, wrong fuel.
A few years ago a station "somehow" ended up with jet fuel in their tank.
cars made it about 1/4 mile and died on the road.
turned out the owner also had another station station with the same problem.

State hit him with some massive fines and next thing you know the station is under new ownership.

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JRscooby wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

ib516 wrote:

And the diagnosis is....
No fuel pressure, power and ground to fuel pump good. Diagnosis bad fuel pump.


Murphys Law dictated that...because your tank is plum full of fuel!

Oh well, i't about a horse a piece whether you take the bed off or drop the tank. Removing the bed just requires more hands.
Glad you got er diagnosed and relatively cheap/simple repair.


Talk of Murphy's Law. Fuel pump went out on DW's S10 with about 70,000 miles on it. I dropped the tank to replace, and while I had it down I measure from center of pump to mount marks, transferred measurements to bottom of bed, and drilled a 1/8th inch hole. Next time that pump fails I will put a door in the floor. We sold that truck with just under 200,000 miles, and I never had to change the pump again.


See, ya scared that truck straight! It knew you meant business and if it failed again, you were going to preform surgery by sawzall on it!
Funny story, went down to Oregon to buy a used mower, turned out the dude was a landscaper. Oh well was hoping for a private owner...anyway guy and one of his helpers are butchering up a truck bed to get to the fuel pump. Already got one hole cut, wrong spot, cutting another hole and Guy is yelling "don't hit the tank when you're cutting it". Then he starts yelling "$&!?;?;$ STOP, you just cut into the tank!!!"
Couple a goobers.

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NJRVer wrote:

Not bad gas, wrong fuel.
A few years ago a station "somehow" ended up with jet fuel in their tank.
cars made it about 1/4 mile and died on the road.
turned out the owner also had another station station with the same problem.

State hit him with some massive fines and next thing you know the station is under new ownership.


I used to run Jet A in my private CUCV back in the days. That exhaust smelled so sweet. You'd do a double take sniff [emoticon]


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