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Posted: 08/06/19 05:21pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

There are no light models in these beasts. You’ll be north of 5000lb pin weight with an empty trailer and probably up around 7000lbs loaded if you go with a 50 footer. When you figure in 4 people and a hitch in the truck, that’s out of pickup territory, so you’ll be driving what is basically a small semi tractor.


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gbopp wrote:

I've never owned a 5th wheel so I can't help with your questions.
I am curious, what will you use to tow the large 5th wheel you are considering?


The truck we are planning on buying is a 2017 or newer Ford F350 Diesel Dually. The 50' has a 21,000 lb capacity so it should work out great.

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States can have a vehicle length law on the books and same for a combination max length. My state is 42' for a RV and 68' for a combination.
I've yet to hear of anyone (rv folks) being pulled over for being over either max lengths.

A '17 F350 DRW has a 9900 rawr that will carry all the hitch load and other gear in the bed. Many owners report around 3500 lb unladin rear axle weight (actaul weight depends on scaled axle weights). This leaves approx 6k-6.5k lbs for a in the bed payload. Your gonna' have close to a max loaded truck.

Just for fodder.....Next truck up is the F450 cab/chassis with those big 11.5k-12k rawr numbers which will give you plenty of reserve load carrying capacity.


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khtims75 wrote:

gbopp wrote:

I've never owned a 5th wheel so I can't help with your questions.
I am curious, what will you use to tow the large 5th wheel you are considering?


The truck we are planning on buying is a 2017 or newer Ford F350 Diesel Dually. The 50' has a 21,000 lb capacity so it should work out great.

Right size truck but choose a Dodge diesel truck with an exhaust brake. I would then add a Transfer Flow auxiliary fuel tank 60 to 80 gallon tank??????.

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JIMNLIN wrote:

States can have a vehicle length law on the books and same for a combination max length. My state is 42' for a RV and 68' for a combination.
I've yet to hear of anyone (rv folks) being pulled over for being over either max lengths.

A '17 F350 DRW has a 9900 rawr that will carry all the hitch load and other gear in the bed. Many owners report around 3500 lb unladin rear axle weight (actaul weight depends on scaled axle weights). This leaves approx 6k-6.5k lbs for a in the bed payload. Your gonna' have close to a max loaded truck.

Just for fodder.....Next truck up is the F450 cab/chassis with those big 11.5k-12k rawr numbers which will give you plenty of reserve load carrying capacity.


Thank you! And thank you to the others offering great opinions. I guess I will be topping out the F350. I will consider the Dodge... OR F450.. Ugh. Maybe going smaller is really the solution here and give up some comforts. This was a really good discussion so far.

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An F-350/3500 will not legally or safely do what you want, you are in medium duty territory. Getting into some campgrounds and gas stations will be a challenge. You may also have to upgrade your driver's licence, check with your dmv. Maybe a class A would work better for you.

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If you have the cash check out New Horizons they build custom 5th wheels. If you go over 44ft you will limit your access to most public camp grounds.
You should Google 5wheel bunkhouses you may find something there, I do recall seeing some bunkhouse models that separate bunk spaces.


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The longest I've seen was a 53' custom built. We were in a state park that sites were first come first serve, but one was coned off, a pull through. Later the rig showed up. It was built on a moving van chassis. and pulled by a single axle tractor.

It was a traveling preacher with 6 kids. The thing had 3 bunk slides, a kitchen slide a a queen slide.

Talking to him he said he learned the hard way, to find a lot in town drop the trailer and drive through the park.He had gone into a park once and found out he couldn't make the turns for the trees. Had to back out.

So he had asked the park to hold the pull through while he went and got the trailer.


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Agree with the suggestion to check with New Horizons. They will build you what you want but it will be expensive. Also, their rigs are heavy so you will certainly be needing more than the F350. Most of the New Horizons I've seen are being towed by crew cab Freightliners.


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How much and how often are you planning on moving around? If not much, you might consider "destination trailers" or "park model" trailers. These are kind of between an RV and a manufactured home. They are mobile but not the kind of thing you'd want to haul around every weekend.

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