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2manytoyz

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wowens79 wrote:

Most pop ups don't have holding tanks. We had one for 9 years, and used a 5 gallon aqua-tainer to catch our gray water. Never had an issue in state parks. I think you might have some issues in some of the private campgrounds. I've seen many of those that don't allow converted trailers or buses, it has to be a factory built RV.


When I had a pop-up camper, here's what we were dealing with at St. Andrews SP in FL. Look at the lower right of the bulletin board on the bath house.

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But, this was the ONLY campground I've ever noticed this. We've had to use our blue tote many times at campgrounds that lacked full hookups. It's a PITA. Our tote is only 10 gallons. But that's still 83.4 pounds, plus the weight of the tote. Too heavy to pull by hand very far, too heavy to lift safely into the bed of my truck, and the wheels are sketchy behind a vehicle... but I have towed it with my truck. I just kept the speed down, and sprayed the wheels/axles with lube before rolling.


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X 2 on the pop up thoughts. Then using a porta potty, you would only need to carry a small jug for sink to drain to.

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It might work for gray water, but solid waste out of the toilet isn’t going to easily flow down RV-sized pipes directly from the toilet. You’d need a lot of water and larger pipes or place your tank directly under the toilet.


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Full twenty gallon tote weighs 170-175. Wheels or not that's a load and no fun.


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When I had a pop-up camper, here's what we were dealing with at St. Andrews SP in FL. Look at the lower right of the bulletin board on the bath house.

I tried a bit of googling on the statute numbers on the sign. I didn't see anything specifically banning tote tanks. Maybe it's cross-referenced in their statutes. Would be interesting to see the exact wording, if any. Or is it just the particular CG that just doesn't want people dragging smelly noisy totes around?

What if your tote tank is grey or you painted it pink?? [emoticon]

Have been to a couple of CGs in Oregon where they said you can't lay you sewer hose directly on the ground. Most people do it anyway. It's a nuisance to have to set up hose supports especially if you have two outlets. I never do it. I tried to find the Oregon law once and couldn't. Maybe another example of CGs referencing rules that don't exist?


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If you straight piped the toilet to the portable tank, and used a std home style toilet then I’d might work for the black tank. Not sure what you gain.


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Its hard to comprehend why companies like Barker and Thetford, who manufacture and market tote tanks that are such a PITA to use and are illegal in so many campgrounds, continue to do so.

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How about a real idea?

If you have enough height inside your trailer perhaps consider building a subfloor on top of the existing floor. Sort of like 5th wheel trailers have a "basement" which is where their tanks are put.

Typically most RV tanks are 7 inches or a bit less tall so you could easily make a new floor around 7" higher for the bathroom only or the entire living space. This would also give you a chase for other plumbing and electrical items.

Setup your layout correctly and you could make the tanks go under kitchen or even beds so your raised floor may not need to be the entire living space.

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BillyBob Jim wrote:

Its hard to comprehend why companies like Barker and Thetford, who manufacture and market tote tanks that are such a PITA to use and are illegal in so many campgrounds, continue to do so.


I recognize your sarcasm. But at the same time I know a lot of things are made to sell, not to use.

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I used to do that with gray water only back in my Trailer days. Left the tote IN the trailer when I upgraded to an "A".

Only for Gray Used a port-a-potty though so it had a "luggagle" tank as well

Never have I been in a park with a sign like the Florida one. but then I don't park in florida (For assorted reasons I will not talk about here).


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