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Posted: 08/14/19 07:39am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Actually, there is an emergency method of slide retraction with the Schwintek system. It uses an override of the electronic "brain" to force the motors to bring the slide in - just as if one were to physically attach DC power to each motor.

However, if there were some physically broken parts, the slide would not be "retractable" even if there were a manual crank.

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JTLance wrote:

AV8RDS

That is exactly why I am paralyzed with fear. Your post is spot on. The only slides Ive ever had were on two other campers and both were flawless and both were NOT schwintek's.

Do you think there is a production year that may have many of the issues worked out?

I can see 2017-18 as a target?


Thats a great question. I see a lot of campers(TC's, A's, C's, Tags) with Schwintek so you'd like to think its worked out but using Google I'm not quite convinced. Obviously not convinced to buy the EC960 I like.


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Posted: 08/14/19 07:49am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

bighatnohorse wrote:

Actually, there is an emergency method of slide retraction with the Schwintek system. It uses an override of the electronic "brain" to force the motors to bring the slide in - just as if one were to physically attach DC power to each motor.

However, if there were some physically broken parts, the slide would not be "retractable" even if there were a manual crank.


There is. There is also their method in their manual where you have to reach behind the seals and lift the 4 motors to disengage them so you can physically push the slide.

page 3 sections 2 and 3

https://www.amlrv.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Schwintek-Manual-override.pdf

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So, if I may ask, what does Host do that supposed to be better?

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JTLance wrote:

So, if I may ask, what does Host do that supposed to be better?


Not sure the context of the question. I assume just in regards to the slide motors?

Host uses a power gear system instead of the Schwintec. It is a pretty simple and robust unit.

For disconnecting the slide motors on a Host there are levers on the motors and access doors to disconnect them easily on the side slides and the motor for the rear slide sits at the end of the slide by the entry door. Very easy to reach all three on the Host. Fortunately past testing them when new there hasn't been an issue on any of the slides on our camper. We have opened and closed the slides hundreds of times now.

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Anybody happen to know if Arctic Fox uses Schwintek for its slides?


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RobG wrote:

Anybody happen to know if Arctic Fox uses Schwintek for its slides?


You can tell if it's schwintek if you see the tracks on the side of the slide like these:

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No tracks on side of slide would be a power gear system

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Posted: 08/14/19 01:40pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

HAHA SWEET!! Thanks.

I just signed a deal yesterday on a new 2019 Arctic Fox 992. I pick it up over Labor Day weekend. Have to go to Colorado to get it (which will be a fun trip).

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Your requirement for a couch and dinette limit the number of campers available. If you are willing to go with one or the other, Arctic Fox will replace the dinette with a couch and you could choose an 1140 or 1150 for more space. The Northstar 12 STC has no slides but is well laid out.

I have a hard time suggesting either model the OP listed and am just trying to think of a different box that may fit...


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I think that the biggest boogieman on the Schwintek was due to improper or near lack of installation training...At this point (post initial growing pains) they are pretty RV ubiquitous and likely with few concerns...

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