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Posted: 08/15/19 09:24pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

beemerphile1 wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

...Now I think I would have better results with volunteering and adding my voice to the national and two national park-national forest specific organization I'm affiliated....


I would love to see more people volunteer. I've been a NPS VIP (volunteer in park) since the year before I retired. The park service is very appreciative of those that volunteer.

In fact, the NPS would collapse without the volunteer workforce.


A salute to you sir!

And the campers appreciates you too I bet and pick up a few friends in the process.

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42 million active campers in the USA? Last year, last decade, or just raw unit sales numbers for some time period? Please cite source.

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fjoosi wrote:

42 million active campers in the USA? Last year, last decade, or just raw unit sales numbers for some time period? Please cite source.


It's been posted previously. I don't know why people keeps on jumping on the end of the thread asking the same thing that's already been answered, lol.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/190202/number-of-participants-in-outdoor-activities-in-the-us-2009/

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Reading this thread is like seeing all the peeps in this great Nation that thinks socialism is a great idea. Shut this down just the Sierra Club will do to Yosemite Sam or is it Foghorn Leghorn.......

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beemerphile1 wrote:


I would love to see more people volunteer. I've been a NPS VIP (volunteer in park) since the year before I retired. The park service is very appreciative of those that volunteer.

In fact, the NPS would collapse without the volunteer workforce.


And yet, here in CA, all volunteerism has been banned. Camp hosts used to be volunteers - now the state mandates that they are paid positions. Obviously not at the federal level. On the state level, from top to bottom.

To avoid getting political I won't suggest which side of the political divide is behind that, so lets' just say they will be lock step with the sky-is-falling original subject of this thread. And of course it is CA, so identifying the politics behind it should be obvious.


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Reading this thread is like seeing all the peeps in this great Nation that thinks socialism is a great idea.
The president ordered business to leave China. And he's pissed at Fox news. What do you call that?

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2oldman wrote:

F-TROUP wrote:

Reading this thread is like seeing all the peeps in this great Nation that thinks socialism is a great idea.
The president ordered business to leave China. And he's pissed at Fox news. What do you call that?


A smart move, Obummer sent everything to China and was more than pissed at Fox news "what do you call that".

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F-TROUP wrote:

Reading this thread is like seeing all the peeps in this great Nation that thinks socialism is a great idea. Shut this down just the Sierra Club will do to Yosemite Sam or is it Foghorn Leghorn.......


I don’t know why Socialism is relevant on this thread but for edumacation purposes, ask yourself why the Democratic Socialist countries of Denmark, Norway... have the happiest people on earth where nobody gets bankrupt to pay for medical care, nor college loan ow where old folks don’t choose between eating cat food or paying for rent.

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Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

RickLight wrote:

GordonThree wrote:

Close most parks to the public. Keep a few open using mass transit.

The goal is preserve and protect, not splay open and exploit.


NPS has always had public access as part of their mission. This is directly opposite of wilderness declarations. There is a room for both types.


And defeats its purpose and its mission.


This is confusing. Is the NPS supposed to protect national parks for everyone to enjoy, or fence them off?

I thought NPS was supposed to keep "wild areas" open to the public, while still protecting it.

Seems logical... if the public pays for the national parks, the public should have access.


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Posted: 08/29/19 05:37am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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agesilaus wrote:

Oh and the 2017 NPS budget was 2.55 Billion the 2018 budget is 2.7 Billion, how can anyone except a democrat call that a cut? The 2019 budget is unknown at this time.


Actuals - 2018 $3.6B
2019 $3.2B

Cut - $0.4 billion

Same math-challenge calculations or sloganeering against deficit, now about to GOP Great Recession level of $1 trillion under the great Bush Jr.


I didn't realize the NPS budge was that large. Almost a Billion dollars more than what agesilaus found.

To misquote some politicians: A billion dollars here and a billion dollars there, pretty soon we will be talking real money.

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