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Hondavalk

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Scubydg wrote:

So we had the trailer loaded the same way for both the tacoma and the tundra. And there was considerable difference in sway..Could I have too much weight loaded forward and that cause sway?


Sway is caused by a lack of tongue weight, not to much. If your tow vehicle is overloaded on the back axle it will cause your steering to become to light, but not cause trailer sway. I pull a 450lb utility trailer thats all over the road if I don't add tongue weight. My TT is 7,800lbs loaded and tows fine behind my Tundra. I did switch switch out the P rated tires with E rated LT tires though.





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Max towing weight is secondary to TV payload. Focus first on payload.


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Hondavalk wrote:

Scubydg wrote:

So we had the trailer loaded the same way for both the tacoma and the tundra. And there was considerable difference in sway..Could I have too much weight loaded forward and that cause sway?


Sway is caused by a lack of tongue weight, not to much. If your tow vehicle is overloaded on the back axle it will cause your steering to become to light, but not cause trailer sway. I pull a 450lb utility trailer thats all over the road if I don't add tongue weight. My TT is 7,800lbs loaded and tows fine behind my Tundra. I did switch switch out the P rated tires with E rated LT tires though.


Actually a light steering axle will "feel" like sway, and have the same consequences. The trailer will wag back and forth. That is what a WDH does. It returns lost weight to the steering, axle, which returns control to the driver.


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I'd first make sure your truck has enough payload and can comfortably pull the GVWR of trailer.
Worst case is you trade in the Toyota which holds great resale value for a more formidable HD truck.

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Scubydg wrote:

So we had the trailer loaded the same way for both the tacoma and the tundra. And there was considerable difference in sway..Could I have too much weight loaded forward and that cause sway?


the "sway" may not have been the trailer wagging, but improper WD hitch setup. To little weight transfer to the front of the TV, front of TV rises, camber is affected and the front of the TV wanders all over the place. I've had two friends who with smaller TV complained about sway and when we went over the setup, what I described was exactly the problem. Very little weight transfer, fair amount of tongue weight way to much front end rise resulting it to light a front end and lots of camber on the front. Once adjusted properly with minimal front end rise, they were flat out amazed and the difference. Very very stable setup.


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Just get a one-ton dualy diesel and you'll never have to buy another tow vehicle again, for ANY trailer.

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I have a Tacoma and wouldn't tow more than about 6,500 and probably less if it was a travel trailer with it. It's just not a heavy enough truck to control all that weigh behind it.

Did your have passenger car rated tires on it?


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DutchmenSport wrote:

Just get a one-ton dualy diesel and you'll never have to buy another tow vehicle again, for ANY trailer.


Really? ANY TRAILER. Even a 48' 45,000lb trailer, with hanging meat?

Yes I know it is a exaggeration. Meant to be. And I know you didn't really mean to say a 1 ton truck could handle it. I just couldn't help my self. [emoticon]

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Remember, a Toyota pulled the Space Shuttle! Not up or down hills or around corners. Are the truck tires up to the task?
A couple years ago, we watched a 1/2 ton Ford pulling a verrry long travel trailer that wasn't set up properly----very scary.
Have a great trip..

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My F-150 has max cargo of 1411 lbs. Some have more depending on the vehicle options.

Our gear and family weight come to 700 lbs. That leave 700 lbs or so for tongue weight.

My TT loaded for the road is about 6000 lbs with 700 lbs on the tongue (13%).

For me, a heavier TT would be too much tongue weight for the vehicle or too little a percentage of the TT weight on the tongue.

It is all in the math and how you judge your rigs handling.


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