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Posted: 08/24/19 08:43am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

On some trim levels of GM 2500s and 3500s, once you remove the window sticker no one knows what you have 3/4 or 1T, as they carry no model label.

People with the new GM 2500 may have a surprise at their state DMV registration office, when states figure out they can collect higher fees.


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Modern 3500/350 DRW trucks are limited to 14,000 GVWR. The trucks capacity is WELL beyond that now. BUT the licensing and insurance rates keep them within that number.

Simply math will tell you the trucks capability. My UNLOADED front axle weight is about 5,250# simply add the SAE RAWR of 9,750# to that. HMMMMM 15,000# how can it be that it's OVER 14,000 GVWR??????

So y'all that are on the "Sky is Falling" side when it comes to GVWR there are the facts.

Simply license that sucker to what the tires are carrying and enjoy the ride.

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Me Again wrote:

On some trim levels of GM 2500s and 3500s, once you remove the window sticker no one knows what you have 3/4 or 1T, as they carry no model label.

People with the new GM 2500 may have a surprise at their state DMV registration office, when states figure out they can collect higher fees.


I recently bought a used Chevy 2500 and thought that the prior owner must have removed the badges. Perhaps it never had any?


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ShinerBock wrote:

Manufacturers use the terms externally with customers because most are ignorant to the vehicle class system and would not know what the term class 2B means, and even if you told them what it means they will likely still use the term 3/4 ton because most are resistant to change. They would rather keep doing what they always do even though it is incorrect instead of changing to what is correct.

I don’t think it’s just a matter of people not changing. While describing these truck by their class 2B, etc. accurately represents their GVWR it doesn’t tell you what model you have and that’s what people usually want to know. Depending upon the year, “3/4 ton” trucks have been in different classes.

You might argue that the class alone is misleading as it doesn’t take curb weight into account. As trucks have gotten heavier and heavier I don’t know if their cargo carrying capacity has really gone up that much (maybe more so in the most recent years). In the end, a “1 ton” will probably have more cargo carrying capacity than a “3/4 ton”.

I also suspect the if Ford called their trucks F2500/F3500 people may well just use 2500 and 3500 series to describe them all. Some already use 250/2500. Everyone knows that “1/2 ton” is 150/1500, “3/4 ton” is 250/2500, etc.

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Wasn't thinking this before, but you made me look. And consider.
My new 2019 F150 has a CCC of 1990#, so that makes it a 3/4 ton, almost a one ton!


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I'm gonna put a 3/4 race cam in my 3/4 ton truck.

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GMs new > 10klb 2500 rating is a bad thing kids.
Well it’s good for the weight watchers on the Internet but bad in the real world.
For the millions that use trucks as tools, keeping 3/4 tons at 10klbs allows everyone to have a HD pickup for commercial use without the layer of regulations that come with trucks over 10k gvw by the state and federal DOTs.
The cops around here don’t go out of their way, but they do ticket people sometimes or at least mention they could when someone gets pulled over in a 1 ton and trailer and no drivers files or DOT numbers.


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Grit dog wrote:

GMs new > 10klb 2500 rating is a bad thing kids.
Well it’s good for the weight watchers on the Internet but bad in the real world.
For the millions that use trucks as tools, keeping 3/4 tons at 10klbs allows everyone to have a HD pickup for commercial use without the layer of regulations that come with trucks over 10k gvw by the state and federal DOTs.
The cops around here don’t go out of their way, but they do ticket people sometimes or at least mention they could when someone gets pulled over in a 1 ton and trailer and no drivers files or DOT numbers.


I think you can order them with a 10k gvwr sticker. I'm assuming same truck just different sticker for this reason?

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6 lug wheels on 1/2 ton and 8 lug wheels 3/4 ton.
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Hell, my Canyon is almost a 3/4 ton with 1,470lbs of payload on the door.


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