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Posted: 08/26/19 09:10am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I'm finally getting another truck camper after many years of not having one... an Arctic Fox 992. Due to the higher weight (and height) of this camper compared to my previous one -- a 2000 Lance 1030, I'm looking for ways to make sure the truck is stable.

I just added a fresh set of Bilstein 5100 shocks and new airbags (the old ones had worn out and weren't holding air anymore). I also added the "upper" Torklift StableLoads because they're just bolt-on and go... no drilling, no "disabling" when not needed, etc.

Now I'm deciding if I should go with the Hellwig Big Wig rear swaybar (since the truck didn't come with one at all), or if I should get the lower StabileLoads. Or heck, BOTH! [emoticon]

Thoughts?

The truck is a 2005 Dodge RAM 3500 dually 4x4.

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Posted: 08/26/19 09:49am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Ive got a 2006 f 350 drw 2wheel drive and my camper is a 02 lance 1130
My f 350 came with sway bars but I upgraded to the helwig front and rear.... made a heck of a difference. The Helwig bars are much larger diameter and was an easy install.
I thought the lower stable loads were too expensive, and after some research on this site I am trying out the DIY method of using the splitting wedges (orange plastic wedges) and they work great on the lower helper springs. I also use the upper overload spring blocks similar to the torklift upper stable loads. They also work fine. The truck handles MUCH better now and I recently drove the road from Willits CA to Ft Bragg CA, (very curvy steep hilly road) Drove and handled great. I know our trucks and campers are different, very different but the idea is similar and the sway bars should work great for you also.
The Stabile loads just seem to be more money than I want to spend at this point, when the wedges are working fine.

** The road from Willits to ft Bragg, could roughly be compared to the dive to Mt Lemon near Tucson, Its been many many years since I drove that road but as I remember it that could be a rough idea, another area in AZ would maybe be near Globe AZ hilly and curvy lots of sharp curves.

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Posted: 08/26/19 10:14am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

On my 2015 F350 SRW with 2018 NL 9'6" QSE, adding lower StableLoads did an excellent job of bringing me to level. Side-to-side sway was still iffy, so just weeks ago I added a rear Roadmaster sway bar, and all manner of sway is gone! Between the two, I feel rock solid going down twisty bumpy roads. With the StableLoads, I could only fit in 2 of the 3 wedges in, but that was more than enough. My F350 also had pre-drilled leaf holes. With the Roadmaster, I liked that I could use the existing drop-down bars as-is, since getting behind the frame to unbolt/rebolt the drop-down bars can be difficult. With Roadmaster, the sway-bar and drop-down bars are separate orderable products.

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Posted: 08/26/19 10:50am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Sway bar made a big difference on my Ram.


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Posted: 08/26/19 10:56am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Sway bar, also check out roadmaster bars, sometimes its an easier install depending on the truck.


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Posted: 08/26/19 11:03am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Thanks!! I agree, the StabilLoads are a bit expensive. I wish I had heard of the wedges idea before buying the upper set that I have now. But I will add that Hellwig bar in the near future.

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Dully come with no sway bar?
I would not rush to anything. When I was ready to pick up my new truck, this forum flooded me with things I should do.
Turn out, I had to do ... nothing.
Newer dually carries 6000 lb of camper just fine. No sway, no bottoming out, perfect control and with 440 HP engine, I am racing BMWs at green lights.
Eventually I put Sulastic hangers for empty ride comfort and put hockey puck on upper overload.. just in case.
So get new camper, observe how much truck sags under the weight, check how much space you have to axle bumpers and then make your mind.





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Did your truck sway with the Lance? Stabiloads won't do much for sway. Roadmaster offers larger diameter anti-sway bars than Hellwig in many applications.


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Posted: 08/26/19 04:23pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

mellow wrote:

Sway bar, also check out roadmaster bars, sometimes its an easier install depending on the truck.
stevenal wrote:

. . . Roadmaster offers larger diameter anti-sway bars than Hellwig in many applications.
On the Ram 3500 SRW, the Hellwig and Roadmaster sway bars use the same outboard (frame) attachment locations.

The Hellwig sway bar uses large u-clamps to attach to the axle, next to the differential housing, about 4" inboard of the lower shock mounts (on each side). In some installatons the brake lines must be re-routed to clear the u-clamps.

The Roadmaster sway bar bolts directly underneath the lower shock mounts (no u-clamps necessary and no interference with the brake lines)---similar to many OEM installations. The mounting point underneath the shock mounts are located approx. 4" further outboard (on each side) vs. the u-clamps on the Hellwig.

IMO, the Roadmaster sway bar is an easier install (at least on the Ram 3500 SRW, and possibly the DRW, too). It can also potentially provide more effective sway control (with all other things being equal---i.e., bar diameter) due to the increased leverage provided by the more outboard mounting locations on the axle housing.

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Posted: 08/26/19 05:58pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I would start with the thickest stabilizer bar that fits your truck. If you still need more sway control, preloading the lower overload spring with the lower StableLoad wedges will help.


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