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Posted: 09/11/19 12:27am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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Ask your insurance company if your covered if your vehicle is left unattended with engine running.


Insurance company didn’t bat an eye in PA for my father-in-law 2 or 3 years ago. He started his car one winter morning and ran inside for a minute. Came back out and it wasn’t there.

Cops talked to him, “yeah, you shouldn’t do that but yeah, it’s freaking cold out this morning.”


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ependydad wrote:

Lantley wrote:

Ask your insurance company if your covered if your vehicle is left unattended with engine running.


Insurance company didn’t bat an eye in PA for my father-in-law 2 or 3 years ago. He started his car one winter morning and ran inside for a minute. Came back out and it wasn’t there.

Cops talked to him, “yeah, you shouldn’t do that but yeah, it’s freaking cold out this morning.”

Because cars being stolen with keys in it is becoming a thing, insurance companies are creating exclusions.
As mentioned Remote start is the simple solution for this issue.


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TF36DSMatt wrote:

...I installed a fuel line shutoff after my most recent carb swap and run the carb dry for storage so hopefully that will help.


So you are saying they do not come with a shut-off to to petcock(if they even have one). That's something to think about also. I have a stand-alone generator on wheels at home, log splitter, and self-propelled walk-behind snow thrower. All are gas operated and all have the cut-off valves. I always cut the gas and let the carburetor run dry. I've had that generator for over 13 years now. I keep Staybill in the gas and keep the shut off - off. It runs 3 to 5 times a year for power outages at the house, and I run it about 15 minutes every month. It still runs like a champ. No problems with the log splitter or snow thrower either. So this kind of surprises me there's no cut off on the Onan.

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I don't own a gas powered Onan but I do read of lots of gas and carb issues with the gas powered models.
I thinks it's mostly a maintenance/ethanol issue vs. poor design.
However one of the main reasons I have come to prefer LP is that it burns clean and avoids all the carb issues.

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I wonder if using Non-Ethanol fuel would help.
I try to use only non-ethanol fuel in my lawn mowers, chain saws, weed wackers etc. Had to replace a fuel line in a chain saw because of the ethanol.


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TF36DSMatt wrote:

The Keystone Raptor and Fusion both come with gas Onan 5500s with 30 gallon fuel tanks. Not sure how similar they are to a Montana but might give you an idea of how Keystone lays out a gas genny on their fifth wheels if you wanted to go that direction.

I have a built-in gas Onan 5500 on my toy hauler with push button start and it works well for the situations you describe. Only issue is I am on my 3rd carb. I do use Stabil and still get issues (genny shutting down under load, won't start, surging, various codes, etc.). Search "Onan problems" on here and you'll get lots of hits and most of these problems are with gas models and can be remedied with a carb swap. The carb is actually very easy to change out in about 15 minutes at a cost of around $300 (Amazon). I installed a fuel line shutoff after my most recent carb swap and run the carb dry for storage so hopefully that will help.

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Yes the red Stabilizer is worthless, only use the green marine type.

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Lantley wrote:

ependydad wrote:

Lantley wrote:

Ask your insurance company if your covered if your vehicle is left unattended with engine running.


Insurance company didn’t bat an eye in PA for my father-in-law 2 or 3 years ago. He started his car one winter morning and ran inside for a minute. Came back out and it wasn’t there.

Cops talked to him, “yeah, you shouldn’t do that but yeah, it’s freaking cold out this morning.”

Because cars being stolen with keys in it is becoming a thing, insurance companies are creating exclusions.
As mentioned Remote start is the simple solution for this issue.


I know that a lot of cars in the last 10 years, or so, that have systems like OnStar, have a remote start/stop built in...IF you pay the annual subscription fee.

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Best of both worlds. Fill that space with Lithium Ion iron batteries and an inverter to run the A/C. I have two Battleborn battery’s and love them. So fill the space and when your power starts gettin low, use the inverter generator to charge them back up. Then put it away.

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I know this post is a little old, but I got just back from a 2 week trip with the following observations in regards to getting propane tanks filled.

Finding places to fill propane is incredible difficult if you aren't in major towns.

If you need a fill on Sunday or after hours, most propane fill places are closed on Sundays/after hours.

I was in Newport TN and I spent 2 days trying to fill one of my empty 30lb tanks. I have a gas generator, my propane was for our furnace and fridge while moving.

Our campground was out of propane. I called Lowes 20 minutes in town and they said, yea, we refill. I specifically asked if they refill. I get there, and they only had 20 lb exchanges. Walmart next, door same thing. The couple gas stations listed on google as having propane fill had no propane of any kind. I gave up.

Went back to our campground and asked them who fills. They said, oh, the campground (KOA) next to us fills. I Called them up that night and they said, yea, we refill propane but we are closed currently. No problem, just swing there in the AM before we leave and fill it up. I drive over there- Nope, no filling. WTF. They said to go on down to the corner hardware store.

20 minutes back into town I get to the hardware store and they were able to fill me up. They were closed when I went into town the first time so it wouldn't had mattered if I knew they were there.

I run my tank out again (I have 2 ) the night before we were leaving for home. The campground I was at had a fill station. I paid my $28 to have it filled. We get out there, and they can't get the propane in. Not sure what is going on. I told them the hardware store in TN had no problem filling it....They gave up and said you might want to try the walmart down the street. Well, Walmart doesn't fill. I said screw it, I will just fill it once I get it home.

If I had 20 lb tanks and didn't mind the expensive $20-$25 exchange, I would had been OK. Trying to get your own tanks filled proved difficult while on the road. I did, however, pass quite a few gas stations trying to get them filled. A couple gas cans in the back of the truck and it would had been easy to get that petrol generator back running.

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