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LokiSukaido

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Bordercollie wrote:

Almost anything in the RV is replaceable. It the roof or siding has dry rot/water damaged and moldy, you may be in for a lot of reconstruction woodwork and replacement of roof and siding. Old rigs often have messed up wiring from amateur fixes. The roof AC unit, water heater, fridge and converter/charger unit and fresh water pump may need replacement as well as all six tires. The engine cooling system may need serious work including radiator, belts and hoses, water pump and clutch fan. The brake system may need major overhaul.
The chassis alternator and electrical and lighting system may need replacement. The engine and transmission may need overhaul. Even if you are a well equipped truck mechanic and skilled RV structural repair man, and have helpers, I think you are looking at spending some 20K dollars . An old restored rig with all new innards is not worth much more than 5-7K dollars as the buyer cannot get a loan on that old of a rig. My advice is give it back or sell it to a junkyard for whatever you can get. Advice: Save up 20K and buy a used rig that is usable as is with few repairs/upgrades needed. There are some ongoing threads on RV.Net about major restorations that will be informative.


Thank you for the information. Any idea how much one could get to junk a Class C? I know some places do it by weight. And, others by style of vehicle. I once had a 1988 Celica that was quoted as being worth $200, scrap. But, that is a tiny car.

Which bring up another question. Are there scrapyards specifically for RVs? Or, do I take it to a generic one? I'm still new. So, I'm still learning.

Additionally, I figured that I'd need to put a bit into her, if I'm going to make it work. And, part of my initial thought when I first looked at her was that it would take me quite a while, and a lot of work. But, the journey might be fun. Was I mistaken?

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Based on the first two pictures, I fear what you have is basically a collection of some parts that could be used in the building of another RV. The third and fourth pictures I think require access to your personal gmail account to view, which of course I do not have.

In the first picture, the structure--not just the skin, but the actual framework--of the back of the motorhome looks compromised and perhaps unsafe. In the second, there is a whole lot of water damage to the cabover; it would need to be completely rebuilt, again possibly requiring repairs to or replacement of the basic framework as well as the walls, etc. In the end, it would come close to building a new class C motorhome on an old chassis, I suspect. If you carried through with this, you'd still have a thirty year old chassis to keep running (albeit a fairly reliable and well-documented and popular thirty year old chassis).

This is not impossible to do, but it's a whole lot of work and requires some skills in a number of trades to pull off. It would probably be a lot quicker and easier to get some other vehicle in better shape and move/adapt the RV parts to it. Something like a school bus or a step van could maybe be a starting point...or an enclosed trailer if you don't mind a tow-behind.

For most people, though, I think Bordercollie hit it on the head: get what you can for this, and look for something in better shape. It will likely be less money and definitely a lot less time spent in the end.





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Just do the minimum and go camping. If you want to restore vehicles you are better with an old Camaro. I think for most of us RVing is about travel and enjoying the outdoors more than a restoration.


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DrewE wrote:

Based on the first two pictures, I fear what you have is basically a collection of some parts that could be used in the building of another RV. The third and fourth pictures I think require access to your personal gmail account to view, which of course I do not have.

In the first picture, the structure--not just the skin, but the actual framework--of the back of the motorhome looks compromised and perhaps unsafe. In the second, there is a whole lot of water damage to the cabover; it would need to be completely rebuilt, again possibly requiring repairs to or replacement of the basic framework as well as the walls, etc. In the end, it would come close to building a new class C motorhome on an old chassis, I suspect. If you carried through with this, you'd still have a thirty year old chassis to keep running (albeit a fairly reliable and well-documented and popular thirty year old chassis).

This is not impossible to do, but it's a whole lot of work and requires some skills in a number of trades to pull off. It would probably be a lot quicker and easier to get some other vehicle in better shape and move/adapt the RV parts to it. Something like a school bus or a step van could maybe be a starting point...or an enclosed trailer if you don't mind a tow-behind.

For most people, though, I think Bordercollie hit it on the head: get what you can for this, and look for something in better shape. It will likely be less money and definitely a lot less time spent in the end.


Thank you for this. And, for everyone else. I thank you, as well. While the main enjoyment of RVing is the traveling and camping, what I meant before was that when completed, she would be something I could go camping with and share that I put in a lot of work. Kind of what was mentioned about restoring a Camaro, or something. It would be a matter of pride. However, it seems that the general consensus is that this is not a realistic idea. I'm hoping that what I have seen looks worse than it really is. However, maybe I will continue to look for something like the beginnings of a skoolie. You did bring up a good point about it being a 30 year old chassis. I haven't been able to really examine well that. So, I may be in for more. However, I'm just trying to get as much info as I can, and take it one step at a time.

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I agree with most other posters. You MIGHT be able to make repairs to get this to a usable state, but from the 2 viewable pictures, it would appear that the entire structure of the RV is compromised. Think about what it will cost to rehab, your abilities to do the work, and what it will be worth to you when its done. You can invest far less money than it will cost you in repairs, even if you do the repairs yourself, and end up with far more. There are a lot of older RVs that are in far better shape to "rehab" and end up with a lot better project.

If appliances and drive train aren't in as bad a condition as the back of the coach looks, you may be able to make some money piecing it out. I haven't done this, but at one point RV engines were kind of sought after used engines because although they are often hard miles, they are often low mileage engines when the coaches fall down around them.


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Thank you for this. And, for everyone else. I thank you, as well. While the main enjoyment of RVing is the traveling and camping, what I meant before was that when completed, she would be something I could go camping with and share that I put in a lot of work. Kind of what was mentioned about restoring a Camaro, or something. It would be a matter of pride. However, it seems that the general consensus is that this is not a realistic idea. I'm hoping that what I have seen looks worse than it really is. However, maybe I will continue to look for something like the beginnings of a skoolie. You did bring up a good point about it being a 30 year old chassis. I haven't been able to really examine well that. So, I may be in for more. However, I'm just trying to get as much info as I can, and take it one step at a time.


There's nothing wrong with this idea. A lot of people rehab Airstreams and end up making money. Problem with those is they will cost you more than a lot of really nice trailers even when they are in pretty bad shape. Point is, you need to start with good bones. You can rebuild cabinets and interior pretty easily. It's not impossible to rebuild chassis, frame, and structure, but it's farm more difficult and far harder to do it safely.

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"Is it doable ?"
Anything is doable, but;
1. you need to have a mechanical knowledge & ability, (including electrical,propane,plumbing & heat & AC).
2. You are going to need mega $$$$$$$$ , that you could put towards a usable RV.
As said earlier, most or all of us buy an RV to use,not to sit & be worked on for several years before it can be used.


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I’ll be a bit contrary- I’m seeing steel frame- cannot tell how badly rusted it is. If it is sound, you just have a major delam issues from major leaks. You would basically just reskin the rig.

You should have an emergency start switch which will jump the house battery to the chassis- make sure the battery leads are well taped.


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First make sure the darn thing will start and drive. If it won't, walk away. Parts are becoming "hard to come by" for such old designs.

I think the skill set required to salvage this unit is quite extensive. Basically it needs to be stripped to the frame and rebuilt from scratch.

* This post was edited 09/08/19 03:41pm by pianotuna *


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if this rv has been sitting one year or more? I,d drain all fuel ,by now its junk fuel and you don,t want that in your motor. it,ll ruin your injectors and more.

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