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I can’t find out what payload is for 2020 Silverado crew cab diesel DRW LTZ because they aren’t out yet . Does anybody know the payload for 2019 same as mentioned above.

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dennych1 wrote:

I can’t find out what payload is for 2020 Silverado crew cab diesel DRW LTZ because they aren’t out yet . Does anybody know the payload for 2019 same as mentioned above.


payload capacity will be specific to each truck, depending on what it weighed when it left the factory, as equipped.
that's why they put a payload capacity sticker on the driver's door. any additional equipment, dealer installed or owner installed will lower that number.


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I realize that I wanted to get a ball park.

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What bikendan said. The trouble is that payload can vary so much that even manufactures to not included them in any specifications other than the door sticker. In other words they won't ball park the number because it's not real.


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The 2020s duallys GVWR increased from 13000 to 14000. The truck itself is likely a little heavier, so you won't see the full 1000 as an increase in payload. probably 500-700#.

Historically the SRW was pretty much limited by the tires and springs, as the actual axle was the same. For 2020 though, the dually gets a bigger rear axle than the SRW.

So I suppose the actual axle rating will likely be higher. IOW, for those not stuck on the payload number, it can likely haul more. The 14K GVWR is probably conservative in this case.

So you take all of that, and look at some actual trucks payloads, and guesstimate from there. That will be your best ballpark figure.

You mentioned the 2019s.... If you are wondering if the payload will be higher in the 20s vs the 19s... That answer would be yes. And the 20s on paper should be even stronger than their ratings will show, because of the bigger rearend.



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The 2020s duallys GVWR increased from 13000 to 14000. The truck itself is likely a little heavier, so you won't see the full 1000 as an increase in payload. probably 500-700#.

Historically the SRW was pretty much limited by the tires and springs, as the actual axle was the same. For 2020 though, the dually gets a bigger rear axle than the SRW.

So I suppose the actual axle rating will likely be higher. IOW, for those not stuck on the payload number, it can likely haul more. The 14K GVWR is probably conservative in this case.

So you take all of that, and look at some actual trucks payloads, and guesstimate from there. That will be your best ballpark figure.

You mentioned the 2019s.... If you are wondering if the payload will be higher in the 20s vs the 19s... That answer would be yes. And the 20s on paper should be even stronger than their ratings will show, because of the bigger rearend.


GM was not using the same rear axle previously. The axle tubes on the DRW trucks were twice as thick in DRW models. The gears and shafts might have been similar, but that doesn't tell the whole story. The difference between 1/4" wall and 1/2" axle tubes is not trivial.

OP: you will probably have about 6k pounds of payload. It may be a little more or less depending on options.

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What are you trying to accomplish?
All new duallies are of very similar, almost identical capability across the board.
Payload is actually about the least of the real world differences. New dually = good for about 6k payload giver take, any flavor.


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twodownzero wrote:

Huntindog wrote:

The 2020s duallys GVWR increased from 13000 to 14000. The truck itself is likely a little heavier, so you won't see the full 1000 as an increase in payload. probably 500-700#.

Historically the SRW was pretty much limited by the tires and springs, as the actual axle was the same. For 2020 though, the dually gets a bigger rear axle than the SRW.

So I suppose the actual axle rating will likely be higher. IOW, for those not stuck on the payload number, it can likely haul more. The 14K GVWR is probably conservative in this case.

So you take all of that, and look at some actual trucks payloads, and guesstimate from there. That will be your best ballpark figure.

You mentioned the 2019s.... If you are wondering if the payload will be higher in the 20s vs the 19s... That answer would be yes. And the 20s on paper should be even stronger than their ratings will show, because of the bigger rearend.


GM was not using the same rear axle previously. The axle tubes on the DRW trucks were twice as thick in DRW models. The gears and shafts might have been similar, but that doesn't tell the whole story. The difference between 1/4" wall and 1/2" axle tubes is not trivial.

OP: you will probably have about 6k pounds of payload. It may be a little more or less depending on options.
I had not heard that anywhere before about the tube wall thickness.
The duallys DO have a 12" ring gear vs., an 11.5" for the srw.

There have been other exceptions from time to time as well. I know that Dodge at one time had a Dana 80 behind the Cummins, vs a 60 or 70 (IDRC for sure) for the gas motors.


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I put 5,750# pin plus 200#+ B&W Hitch plus in-bed toolbox at least 400# on my 15 RAM DRW putting the rear axle at it's RAWR of 9,750#. Thats around 6,300# or so "payload" not including us.

Bottom line with the newest GM's you can tow what you want.


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Huntindog wrote:



There have been other exceptions from time to time as well. I know that Dodge at one time had a Dana 80 behind the Cummins, vs a 60 or 70 (IDRC for sure) for the gas motors.


Those Dodges had a 70 for many SRW trucks but the manual trans trucks had the 80, even in SRW. GM also used the 70 in its older DRW trucks before it had a dually 14 bolt. In any event, it's dangerous to think that the SRW vs. DRW is only springs/tires, because that's often not true. Trucks are engineered for what is on the sticker in the door, as many have said above.

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