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Testing is easy . I carry a GFCI tester with me. It looks like a receptacle tester with a test button on top. Plug it in, tells if receptacle is wired properly, push the button and it trips GFCI.
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I should add, if the receptacle is protected by another device, the problem then arises to find the device, either breaker or upstream receptacle.
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Older facility? If so it was not required at the time. Local codes may not require updating.

Could be a GFCI breaker.


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It has to be protected since it's a commercial or public facility (goes for rentals too).
No grandfathering.


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Artum Snowbird wrote:

Well, the question came up. Testing to see if it is GFCI protected. That is what the OP asked about, so how does one safely test it?


Plug in gfi circuit tester. 3 lights and a push button.


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ScottG wrote:

It has to be protected since it's a commercial or public facility (goes for rentals too).
No grandfathering.


If it passed inspection before the GFI requirement the is no code to make them upgrade to GFI. Yes it can be grandfathered.

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I should add, if the receptacle is protected by another device, the problem then arises to find the device, either breaker or upstream receptacle.


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cavie wrote:

ScottG wrote:

It has to be protected since it's a commercial or public facility (goes for rentals too).
No grandfathering.


If it passed inspection before the GFI requirement the is no code to make them upgrade to GFI. Yes it can be grandfathered.


Per NEC, NOT in a commercial, public or rental property. I have been though this many times and I am 100% sure of this.
Now if some local yocals don't adopt NEC requirements then anything goes but the code is clear.

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Probably got rid of the GFI ...too many complaints of it tripping when using electric shavers, hair dryers, coffee pots, curling irons and instant pots.

Folks will plug just about anything into any outlet......


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ScottG wrote:

cavie wrote:

ScottG wrote:

It has to be protected since it's a commercial or public facility (goes for rentals too).
No grandfathering.


If it passed inspection before the GFI requirement the is no code to make them upgrade to GFI. Yes it can be grandfathered.


Per NEC, NOT in a commercial, public or rental property. I have been though this many times and I am 100% sure of this.
Now if some local yocals don't adopt NEC requirements then anything goes but the code is clear.


Can you point out the specific section of the NEC where it states that new sections of the code must be enforced on previously legal wiring? I personally have never run across that section. I realize you are 100% sure but I need to reference a NEC section and can't find it.


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