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Posted: 09/26/19 02:15pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I have been hauling my Lance 820 on my 97 F250 with Happijac mounts. I have a 2013 GMC 3500 that I just bought. I like the idea of the Torklift front mounts better. I am wondering if anyone here has used the Torklift fronts and the Happijac buttons on the rear. The obvious benefit to this is price. Anyone here done this? Why? Any regrets? Would you do it differently next time?

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Posted: 09/26/19 02:34pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

That is what I have, and it has worked great.

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Posted: 09/26/19 03:18pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Rear buttons bolt to the bumper?
Having factory hitch, I fabricated tie-downs similar to Torklift rears.
Having some scrap material already, I had only spend $6 on big washers.





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I had that setup on my 2008 Silverado with a relatively small
Lance 915 and an Outfitter Apex 8.
It worked fine in the 7 years I ran this setup. There was no problem, except that the quality of the chrome on the HJ buttons wasn't great.
Drilling holes into the new Chevy rear bumper was not so nice. And I always had my doubts about the stability of the bumper. But never a problem, even in a few hairy situations.
On the new Truck, I have Torklift mounts front and rear for peace of mind.


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Posted: 09/26/19 05:12pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The front two mount points (nearer center of gravity) is all you need to hold the TC secure from wobbling out… up to a point. That point is rarely encountered; it is the point the forces of tilting out are enough to bend the Torklift mounts or the truck frame, or pull the tie-down points out of the camper.

Having the rear tied down doubles the strength.

Attaching to the bumper instead of the frame is only as good as how much the bumper can resist twisting or bending under the tilting loads.

Bouncing down off-road trails, or extreme highway maneuvers or other unforeseen events is what it takes to stress these points.

The other thing these mounts accomplish is to secure the load fore/aft. Torklift will suggest that the angle of the front chain to the rear chain oppose each other (one pulls camper forward, the other pulls the camper to the rear). Can you do this with the bumper mount?

Considering a bumper I would compare the steel bumper to the 2 inch square tube of any/all the aftermarket frame mounts. Which is stronger, a 2 inch tube or a 7 inch tall steel c-shaped bumper? This assumes that the "button" is not the weak link.

Also, along these lines, what component do you want to fail first if things do go south? Namely, your bumper or some attachment that is held in with a pin? Likely the Torklift insert is the cheapest and most easy to replace.

The benefit of the Torklift is that there is a level of protection for the truck.

The Torklift attachment point for the chain seems to have a built-in break point. I have not heard an answer for this, but where the chain attaches has a slit instead of a closed continuos hole. This slit would seem to be intended to let the chain/hook rip out under a pre-calculated amount of tension. Here is the weak link.

I think, that yes, the buttons are just fine under more than 99% of all situations, and even more suited for lighter TCs. If you have a particularity heavy TC I would settle for nothing less than a well-built frame mounting system on all 4 corners though.

For the Lance 820 I see weights ranging from 2,400 to 2,800 lbs dry, which means add another 600-1,000lbs for it loaded and wet. That would be on the middle to heavy side, though some TC can approach 5k…

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ajriding wrote:

..The Torklift attachment point for the chain seems to have a built-in break point. I have not heard an answer for this, but where the chain attaches has a slit instead of a closed continuos hole...


1 of the members reported "testing" the break point on speed bumps.
It is tie-down tubing that bends where it enters heavier extension.
My home made rear tie down bend somewhere on 7000 miles trip as well and I am happy the weak point is actually bending, not breaking point.
Obviously that all assuming you don't have dryrot on camper holds.

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One camper ago and two trucks ago, I went the other way. When the Happijac button attachments bent the bumper, I installed Torklifts on the back. I think HJ has bumper reinforcement brackets now.

* This post was edited 09/27/19 01:34pm by stevenal *


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I have happijac front and torklift rear. The rears tie nicely into my torklift trailer hitch. I wanted the happijac front because it has some forward "pull" compared to the straight down front torklifts. I use the torklift fastguns at all 4 corners. No problems.

* This post was edited 09/27/19 03:06pm by mdpay *


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Rancho 9000, Torklift Stableloads, Hellwig Big Wig, Happijac front tie, Torklift rear tie
Torklift Fastguns, Torklift SuperHitch 42", Lance cabover struts

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Thanks everyone for your input. There doesn't seem to be a wrong answer to this which clears my thinking like mud. Ha. I looked at doing a bar out of the end of my hitch like suggested but it looks like it might hit my fender on 1 side and exhaust on the other. The torklift bracket sits forward just enough to clear. I'm leaning to front and back torklift because I am nervous about the rear bumper. I don't mind bending, and replacing, a bracket but not a bumper. My 96 F250's bumper doesn't seem any worse for the wear but who knows what the difference in materials are now. Thanks everyone for your input. I'll post back in a few days when I make my decision.

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Posted: 09/29/19 12:16pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The days of strong bumpers are over.
My father had 69 Buick Riviera, where emergency jack had low hook and could be used on factory bumper at ANY POINT.
It would lift whole front or whole rear by single point on the bumper.
Still if you have the hitch -there is not much into making your own rear tie-down for much less than $300.

* This post was edited 09/29/19 12:42pm by Kayteg1 *

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