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My 2500 RAM quad cab, short bed, diesel was great when I had an 11,250 pound fiver. When I moved up to my current 13,500# Titanium I ran across CAT scales and found that I made all limits but didn't "feel" real comfortable.

I moved up to a (used) Chevy 3500 crew cab, long bed, diesel and will never go back.

The difference in the ride quality between the short and long bed wheelbases is amazing if you have never experienced it.

The drawback is that I now have the longest consumer pickup GM makes and some things like parking and u-turns can be a problem. (it has it's own ZIP Code.)


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bought a F250 with the V10. 2 wheel drive.Sorriest day of my camping experience.
V 10 had no power in the "hills of AZ" and after calling Ford about the problem and they said" It's the computer, it may take a week to adjust to the altitude. I said " i'am passing thru and won't be at altitude tomorrow. Airplanes don't take days or weeks to adjust. My wife said"when we get home you are getting a diesel. A week later I had a new duramax. More power than i'll ever use. BUT, i lost my butt because the Ford was 2 wheel drive. Nobody in Wi wants them. I guess they wholesaled it to Texas. Never have I used 4 wheel drive while the camper was being used.

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You asked about experience with towing with 2500 2 wheel drive.

I have been towing for over 20 years and over 180,000 miles (4 different fifth wheels) all with 2500 2 rear wheel drive. The last several trucks have been diesel but we started out with gasoline.

In all these 20+ years I can only remember one time when 4 wheel drive would have made any difference. After a sudden rain in Florida many years ago the ground became slippery. Within minutes a park ranger had come to help us out. That's it. Not one other time we could have used four wheel drive.





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I've used 4 wheel drive more times getting into a tight camping site than I have for getting unstuck. 4 wheel low will get you into almost any site at an idle, nice an slow with full control.


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i ordered the F250 because 2WD was one of the things I wanted.

I don't understand the OP thinking that he will get stuck once in a while.

I stay the heck off of slick roads because I have that option.

Been running 2WD since 1999 with nary a problem. I am an on road kind of guy.

I also do not worry about value. I paid less to start with and am hoping that I can find a dumpster big enough to toss this thing in when i am done with it. [emoticon]

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BarneyS wrote:


My preference is for 4x2 but need a 4X4 now since we are spending our time in Michigan winters now instead of going to Florida for the winter. [emoticon]
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Lived in Michigan (out in the country) since I was a kid...always had 4x2 trucks. In 30some years of driving, only got stuck a handful of times and those times, a 4x4 wouldn't have helped.

For the last 15yrs towing 5th wheels, had a 4x4 for 5yrs...only used it once and that was doing something stupid...because I had it.

With the weight on the pin, that rear axle will give you a ton of traction. About the only nice thing, is you can drop in to low range and creep up steep campground roads. A cheap alternative, upgrade to a limited slip differential.


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Nighduckman wrote:

My wife and I recently bought a Jayco Eagle HT 24.5 CKTS fifth wheel. After being somewhat taken in by the marketing and our Ford dealer, we bought a beefed-up F150 that, in the end, was overweight on GVR and the rear axle rating. For safety and out of an abundance of caution, after much research, we traded it in for an F250, gas engine, 2WD. We got the 4x2 instead of the 4x4 because it is a much better fit, height-wise, with our fiver and because we are not going to boondock and only camp in prepared campgrounds with decent roads. I understand we will likely get stuck once in a while, but, will have a tow strap and I understand we can usually count on a nice 4x4 owner to tow us out and/or we have GoodSam towing assistance. Again, we are not going to off road or seriously boondock. We won't be driving the rig in snow etc.

Having said all that, I am curious about the real-world experience of any others who have towed with 2WD. We are comfortable with our decision and know there will be tradeoffs over 4x4 like much lower resale and, potentially, getting stuck occasionally. But, all in all, mainly interested in what other 2WD towers have experienced. Thanks in advance.


Personally, I use 4wd several times a year. One, when we go to our annual boondocker. I don't =need= it to get it, but the road's rough enough that using 4lo makes getting in a lot easier. I also had to use it at a campground where I had to back up a slight incline on hard-packed dirt. Even with the weight of the rig on the rear axle, I started spinning. Dropped into 4wd and backed right in. I also use 4wd on dirt roads, especially when they're washboarded and I have no load. The back end will want to step out on both accel and decel on washboards, and having the front end engaged makes for a much smoother (relatively) ride. Same with towing. I use 4hi on the =maintained= dirt portion of the road into our 'docker site because, even with the FW on, the back wheels =will= bounce a bit. I simply won't have another truck without 4wd.

All this being said, I towed on the farm with 1/2t and 3/4t trucks for decades. Given that we had tractors that could unstick anything, 4wd wasn't really necessary, but it sure would have been nice for the times where you simply =had= to go into a dodgy situation and pray you didn't get stuck. I towed a large GN trailer with my old 3/4t and it would have been nice to have 4wd, especially in a field, but, again, having the tractors around made it unnecessary.

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You can carry a set of tire chains to get you out of the occasional tough spot, if no tow is available. Of course, the first time you "spin" them on in the mud, 4X4 will be looking mighty good! Forty years of coal mine and oilfield lease roads. I carry, or ware, four sets of chains on the CJ2A. Chain up where it is dry, to keep the truck clean.

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I have never owned a 4WD truck and just like the ride, height, capacity, looks, cost, insurance, etc. of 2WD. I also have a 23' boat and the only time I have needed 4WD was in my back yard trying to put the boat back under a shed. This has happened 3 times as I can remember in over 30 years. 4WD vehicles are more prone to get mechanical issues and it's a waste to have this additional hardware if you don't have a need for it. If you go into remote areas off the main roads then you may have justification for it. Consider what you really do with your truck. I have seen so many 4WD trucks that sit too high to safely pull a 5th wheel.

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Likes to tow wrote:

I have never owned a 4WD truck and just like the ride, height, capacity, looks, cost, insurance, etc. of 2WD. I also have a 23' boat and the only time I have needed 4WD was in my back yard trying to put the boat back under a shed. This has happened 3 times as I can remember in over 30 years. 4WD vehicles are more prone to get mechanical issues and it's a waste to have this additional hardware if you don't have a need for it. If you go into remote areas off the main roads then you may have justification for it. Consider what you really do with your truck. I have seen so many 4WD trucks that sit too high to safely pull a 5th wheel.


My '02 D'max 4x4 sits about 2" higher than my brother's '04 F350 4x4 dually. That makes me about 4" shorter than current trucks, near as I can figure.

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