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Posted: 10/01/19 02:18pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Wish I had been able to find a 2WD when we bought our RAM 2500 last year. We don't do and won't do any boondocking, so I will have zero need for 4WD.
In just over a year, I have never engaged the 4WD, even jsut to see what it is like.
It just takes up Cargo Capacity, like the diesel engine does.
And, I assume the ride when empty is better, as romore mentions.
I did get the gas engine and have not had any issues with a 12k+ Fifth Wheel.
Weather in Houston is not a problem, so 2WD works, if you are not getting off the main roads.

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2WD 3500 DUALLY here. 13 seasons. Over 200,000 RVing miles. Been stuck with trailer less than 6 times. Always at a place with a tractor or somebody with a 4WD handy to pull us out. A few other times used brains over power to get ourselves out.


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Posted: 10/02/19 04:23am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

humblerb wrote:

Wish I had been able to find a 2WD when we bought our RAM 2500 last year. We don't do and won't do any boondocking, so I will have zero need for 4WD.
In just over a year, I have never engaged the 4WD, even jsut to see what it is like.
It just takes up Cargo Capacity, like the diesel engine does.
And, I assume the ride when empty is better, as romore mentions.
I did get the gas engine and have not had any issues with a 12k+ Fifth Wheel.
Weather in Houston is not a problem, so 2WD works, if you are not getting off the main roads.
That was my wish as well. Shopped for a truck for months and only saw one with 2WD. I've yet to engage the 4WD myself - even forgot to do so when driving on a beach recently.


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Yeah, I guess we got lucky getting the 2WD F250 we did. I live in Virginia and the dealer said he found the only one east of the Mississippi, which happened to be in North Carolina. Not sure if the scarcity means it will be really difficult when it comes time to sell it (not for many years, health willing) or it means the opposite because folks like you are trying to get one.

And I am loving the fact I didn't have to mess with the axles etc. on my trailer to lift it higher. Our '19 F250 2WD fits perfectly, maybe even slightly better than our old F150 did because of a longer and slightly wider bed.

I suppose a Max Tow F150 w/ HDPP would have worked also, but couldn't find one. Also, fully loaded the CAT scales had us over 4,000 lbs on the rear axlewith our last F250 (carrying only a light Andersen hitch in the bed) and I don't think even the F150 max tow with HDPP has a rear GAWR of over 4,500, if that. My F250 has a rear GAWR of 6340 lbs and a payload of 3,759 lbs...so we have lots of safety cushion and can carry a generator in the bed of the truck if we want. Another reason to go w/ 2WD if you don't need 4WD to get the extra payload etc. over 4x4.

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Just an FYI, the rear GAWR on a F150 w/HDPP is 4800.

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My F250 has a rear GAWR of 6340 lbs and a payload of 3,759 lbs...so we have lots of safety cushion and can carry a generator in the bed of the truck if we want. Another reason to go w/ 2WD if you don't need 4WD to get the extra payload etc. over 4x4.

There is no 250/2500 LDT that can carry 3759 lbs as payload in the bed on the rear axles like a truck camper or GN/5th wheel hitch weight. This is just anothor example of the fallacy of a gvwr based payload for "some" gas powered trucks.
Looking at fleet Ford specs on a 2019 crew cab 176" wb 6.2 gas show around 7 lbs difference in dry rear axle weight in a 2wd vs 4wd.

And around 140 lb difference in dry rear axle weight in a same truck above in 6.2 gas vs 6.7 diesel.

The only way the a 250/2500 truck could carry 3759 lbs is with a bed/front bumper mounted overhead rack like we see on Overhead Door service trucks. The rack allows that 3759 lb payload to be spread over front and rear axles.
Running some number on the OP rear axle shows a 6340 rawr. These trucks rear axle are weighing in the 3000-3200 + lb range leaving around 3200 lb for a max in the bed payload.


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I have a 03' Chevy 2500hd short bed, crew cab 2wd. I pull my 5er and have been stuck twice in soft sand in the desert twice.

If I were to do it all over, I'd go with a Diesel 2wd - same truck.

Now that I'm in Denver and there's snow, I'm thinking a 4wd wouldn't be a bad thing to have - but after reading this, it makes me wonder.

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Can't speak directly to the 2wd issue as I have always owned 4wd trucks, but I will mention that I have never had occasion to put any of my trucks in 4wd with the trailer connected. An issue, as someone pointed out, is resale value. 2wd trucks go dirt cheap because people don't want them, at least around here.

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[emoticon] RJ, well iffin a person wants to be practical or is looking at some sort of a budget or where he wants to put his bucks, they could buy one of them dirt cheap trucks.

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The OP asked about towing, and it seems that most prefer 2WD. I agree, if that is the only use. But 4WD has benefits beyond towing, such as really rough roads, steep hills, crossing streams, light snow (but not ice), and getting across mud holes. I have used mine for all of this and more in just the past year, as well as for towing a 5th wheel. So one should consider all the uses they expect to be facing before deciding for or against 4WD. This might also help explain the difference in resale value.

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