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Posted: 10/20/19 03:17pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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pianotuna wrote:

I'd buy a Harbor Freight 3500 with an extended warranty. I'd buy a champion 3400 with remote electric start.


lol... and you would severely limit the people who would camp with you.

Seriously, friends don't let friends drive drunk or buy noisy generators. It's just plain rude.

What happened to the OP? no thanks for the wonders of brilliant internet knowledge...I'm surprised.


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I have two Honda EU2000s, and I often run both even though one will handle what I’m doing, just because two barely off idle sound nicer than one throttled up.

It’s a whole lot easier to lift and carry a couple of 50 pound sets than one 140 pound EU3000.
And together they make more power too. You also get the option of running just one when your load is very light.
The EU3000 is a terrific unit, but it’s size and weight make it not perfectly suited to use with a truck camper.


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ardvark wrote:

Kayteg1 wrote:

jimh425 wrote:

From the Honda website. All are way below US Forest Service and National Park requirements although they also have generator hours which are not at night.

Dry weight of the quiet Honda 3000 is 131 lbs. 57 dB(A) @ rated load, 50 dB(A) @ 1/4 load

Dry weight for the light Honda 3000 Handi is 78lbs. 58 dB(A) @ rated load, 52 dB(A) @ 1/4 load

Dry weight of a Honda 2200 is 48 lbs. 57 dB(A) @ rated load 48 dB(A) @ 1/4 load.


That's a tricky way to give noise ratings.
Other way to present it is that at
750 W Honda 3000 will make 50 dB when
1800 W Honda 2200 will make 57 db
No direct comparison available, while 7 dB difference is day to night how humans hear it.


Man, for sure. Small numbers, huge difference!!


What would be nice is if they provided graphs of wattage output vs noise level. Even better would be a 3 dimensional graph that includes distance.

No it wouldn't be hard to produce but probably not in the advertisement divisions best interests.

I would be interested to see if they've optimized for 1/4 load, knowing that is what goes into the marketing material and once they get to 26% load, all bets are off. This is quite possible as much of the sound deadening is not due to insulation but via resonance which can be tailored to specific engine rpm.


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I pay attention to those things at campgrounds and my observation is that I can sit on Honda 3000 at small load and talk with normal voice.
3000 will get louder when running AC, but still quieter than AC itself.
When neighbour runs 2 of 2000's to power AC, I don't hear AC over generator noise.
Than 1 time 1 of neighbour's 2000 stop, likely for end of the fuel and whole set went up in smoke.





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Kayteg1 wrote:

3000 will get louder when running AC, but still quieter than AC itself.
When neighbour runs 2 of 2000's to power AC, I don't hear AC over generator noise.
Than 1 time 1 of neighbour's 2000 stop, likely for end of the fuel and whole set went up in smoke.


All ACs aren’t the same noise level. It’s hard for me to believe the RV and generators went up in smoke. Generally, the overload circuit would immediately trip. Are you exaggerating again? [emoticon]


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OK sorry but I have to call BS on that.
Honda EUs do not “go up in smoke” when they overload.
All they do is return to idle speed and shut down the electricity.
You just stop it and restart it and it’s on again.
That’s how they work.
I’ve owned six of ‘em, over the last almost-20 years.
I’d have fried all of them if that story was true.

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burningman wrote:

OK sorry but I have to call BS on that.
Honda EUs do not “go up in smoke” when they overload.
All they do is return to idle speed and shut down the electricity.
You just stop it and restart it and it’s on again.
That’s how they work.
I’ve owned six of ‘em, over the last almost-20 years.
I’d have fried all of them if that story was true.


Ditto the Yamahas and I expect all others. Overloading small gennies occasionally is too commonplace to not cover that liability risk in design. [emoticon]

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Posted: 10/21/19 12:12pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If there was a fire I would think this internal malfunction started the fire.
Can't imagine the shut down from lack of fuel started the fire.


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jimh425 wrote:

Generally, the overload circuit would immediately trip. Are you exaggerating again? [emoticon]


Aren't we all exaggerating here?
I did not ask for details on the incident, but what I observe was that when 1 of Honda2000 generators quit, the other was running for some time before what I think was oil splash smoke show and it died.
That was in 110F heat and on 5-ver so likely 15K AC.
The neighbours did not run 2 generators again.

* This post was edited 10/21/19 12:51pm by Kayteg1 *

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