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You are saying your 250 sets lower in the rear than the front when hitched?

If so air bags are the BEST option, air to get truck "LEVEL" not unloaded stance!!!

If stock shocks add Bilstein's. This combo you WILL thank me.

Sad a 250 needs help with that little pin.


Just about all Ford's do! Even on the F450 review fish posted, the owner installed airbags.

OP, bag it and don't look back!


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I have Timbrens on my 1500.

The advantages they have are that they require no maintenance, don't leak, and are set it and forget it. They are a simple 15 min install, and are progressive and work well. They are also cheaper to buy than airbags.

The disadvantages they have is that they are not adjustable.

Airbags are adjustable for load, but can leak (will leak eventually) and require a more complicated install.

There are other options too, such as Roadmaster Active Suspension, and add a leaf systems.


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I have Timbrens on my 1500.

The advantages they have are that they require no maintenance, don't leak, and are set it and forget it. They are a simple 15 min install, and are progressive and work well. They are also cheaper to buy than airbags.

The disadvantages they have is that they are not adjustable.

Airbags are adjustable for load, but can leak (will leak eventually) and require a more complicated install.

There are other options too, such as Roadmaster Active Suspension, and add a leaf systems.



12 years and not one leak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Cummins12V98 wrote:

You are saying your 250 sets lower in the rear than the front when hitched?

If so air bags are the BEST option, air to get truck "LEVEL" not unloaded stance!!!

If stock shocks add Bilstein's. This combo you WILL thank me.

Sad a 250 needs help with that little pin.


Just about all Ford's do! Even on the F450 review fish posted, the owner installed airbags.

OP, bag it and don't look back!


The current gen Fords are better. Every 450 I’ve seen towing a DRW had to have bags. Even then one guy was still looking for something more due to bouncing.


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I would go with the 2,000lb air bags. That is all you need and won't have nearly as much impact on ride quality when empty. Overkill on springs means a rough empty ride. Even if the springs are deflated air bags. I have 5k airbags on one truck and 2k airbags on another. I much prefer the one with smaller bags. The main issue with the 2k bags is that they are not compatible with a gooseneck hitch but I think that you would be OK with a 5th wheel.

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mexmahon wrote:

I'm towing a 2020 Grand Design, 10500# (when fully loaded) 30' fiver with a pin weight topping out around 1900#. The tow rig is a 2014 F250 6.7 diesel super cab with 6 3/4 bed. The truck squats just a bit when I haul and just want to get it up to level. I've been shopping the Air Lift 7200 bags with the remote and on board compressor, and the Timbren brand "bump stops". Any feedback on either or both out there? Thanks.


I’ve had both. Currently have the Timbrens, and about to replace them with bags.


Put the airlift ride control on today, took timbren off. Instant improvement!


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

You are saying your 250 sets lower in the rear than the front when hitched?

If so air bags are the BEST option, air to get truck "LEVEL" not unloaded stance!!!

If stock shocks add Bilstein's. This combo you WILL thank me.

Sad a 250 needs help with that little pin.


Just about all Ford's do! Even on the F450 review fish posted, the owner installed airbags.

OP, bag it and don't look back!



How about a 3500 Ram dually that comes with air bags. Kinds hypocritical calling it sad that a 250 needs bags

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I have Timbrens on my Ram 2500. There is just under 3/4" gap between the spring perch and the rubber. For the most part I'm very happy with the Timbrens because the truck rides absolutely level even with full loads on the 5er hitch or gooseneck.

The one negative is when I hit bumps enough to compress the coil springs you you can definitely feel the perch hit the rubber. From time to time I've considered removing the Timbrens and going to air bags.

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Me Again wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

You are saying your 250 sets lower in the rear than the front when hitched?

If so air bags are the BEST option, air to get truck "LEVEL" not unloaded stance!!!

If stock shocks add Bilstein's. This combo you WILL thank me.

Sad a 250 needs help with that little pin.


Just about all Ford's do! Even on the F450 review fish posted, the owner installed airbags.

OP, bag it and don't look back!



How about a 3500 Ram dually that comes with air bags. Kinds hypocritical calling it sad that a 250 needs bags


In YOUR mind.

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LIKE2BUILD wrote:

I have Timbrens on my Ram 2500. There is just under 3/4" gap between the spring perch and the rubber. For the most part I'm very happy with the Timbrens because the truck rides absolutely level even with full loads on the 5er hitch or gooseneck.

The one negative is when I hit bumps enough to compress the coil springs you you can definitely feel the perch hit the rubber. From time to time I've considered removing the Timbrens and going to air bags.

KJ


Yes, this describes it perfectly. With the Timbrens on a light duty truck, both loaded and unloaded ride quality are DEFINITELY compromised.

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