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Posted: 10/25/19 07:15pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I know from getting Trailer Life Magazine that there are half-ton towable 5th Wheels being made, but what I don't know is if they are practical. And I have a short bed F-150 (Supercrew) and although I've heard that some hitches with work with a short bed I've never talked to someone who actually does it. Is there anyone here who has that kind of experience who can answer my questions?


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I met a fellow in Colorado last month who was pulling the identical 5th wheel as mine and he was driving an F150 heavy duty with tow package and the 3.5 Eco Boost. He said it did a good job and had ample towing ability in the mountains. I pull mine with a Ram Cummins and was interested in talking with him because he had the same trailer but less truck. Our 5th wheels were Grand Design Reflection 27 RL models. Same year and everything. I know that Grand Design stopped making the 27RL the model year after 2017 but came out with a similar model. I have seen this new model at my local dealer and it is a very practical comfortable looking unit. Hope this helps you

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Posted: 10/25/19 07:30pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Crazy talk. Been doing exactly that 14 years running. No issues. I have the older Superglide hitch. Watch your pin weight.


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Also, both of our trucks had a short bed with slider hitch. Keep in mind Ford offers two short bed models. His was same as mine or 6 1/2 foot. I have no problems with using this set up and have actually never used the slider function of my hitch. However I am careful in very tight turns.

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First, I don't like short bed trucks for pulling a 5er. Next with a 1/2 ton truck, you need to make sure the loaded pin weight of the trailer, plus other cargo in the truck does not exceed the trucks payload capacity.

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I would not want any truck/fiver combo that gets within 80% of the trucks GVWR. Only because you may end up hitting the bump stops on a regular basis and that doesn't make for a very nice ride and can be really hard on the hardware.


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ScottG wrote:

I would not want any truck/fiver combo that gets within 80% of the trucks GVWR. Only because you may end up hitting the bump stops on a regular basis and that doesn't make for a very nice ride and can be really hard on the hardware.


I would love to know the person that started the 80% rule!
I carried a 32’ 12,500# 5er with our 2001 Ram 2500, I was 1,700# OVER GVWR and just under rear GAWR, don’t ever recall hitting the bump stops, heck hardly got to the overload springs!


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rhagfo wrote:

ScottG wrote:

I would not want any truck/fiver combo that gets within 80% of the trucks GVWR. Only because you may end up hitting the bump stops on a regular basis and that doesn't make for a very nice ride and can be really hard on the hardware.


I would love to know the person that started the 80% rule!
I carried a 32’ 12,500# 5er with our 2001 Ram 2500, I was 1,700# OVER GVWR and just under rear GAWR, don’t ever recall hitting the bump stops, heck hardly got to the overload springs!


My post has nothing to do with the 80% "rule" (which I have NEVER promoted). And that rule was generally about not pulling more than 80% of your trucks rating.
You were also using a HD truck. A half ton is more likely to hit bump stops because the suspension is setup for a better ride.
For anyone to actually suggest someone exceed their GVWR is bad advice.

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I will add as a park host we see some pretty crazy setups towing 5ers, many of the 1/2 tons don’t look bad. Lighter 5ers that might be pushing GVWR, but as long as tire is good, almost all are level!

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If you have the 5 1/2' box you won't be able to tow a fifth wheel. With the hitch over the axle the trailer nose will be too close to the cab to allow turning. My current fiver, an old 25' Prowler, grosses at 5600# which puts close to 1200# on the hitch probably maxing out your truck. IMHO, stay with a tt or get a heavier tv.

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