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Desert Captain

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Posted: 11/25/19 02:10pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Freedom RV {here in Tucson} completed all of the repairs to our coach and this morning I brought it back to our storage yard. I am nothing but amazed at the thorough, high quality job they did. As noted above the damages were significantly more severe than initially thought.

The force of the explosion blew the top of the wheel well right up through the floor doing additional damage to the interior cabinetry. The tech said that often such an event can result in the cabinets being blown right through the roof. We were lucky...

The wheel well was completely rebuilt, the twisted steel bar cut out and replaced, the bent frame straightened along with new mud flaps, misc bolts and wiring repairs. The cabinets got quite a bit of new hardware to replace the pieces that were damaged and/or destroyed.

They then detailed the damaged area and the interior of the coach. Here are a couple of shots of the finished repairs:

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Total cost was $4,131 less my $500 deductible less the $251 GEICO reimbursed me for the blown tire... total out of pocket to me = $249.

Nothing but good things to say about the entire staff at Freedom RV and the folks at GEICO who handled my claim. If you are in the Tucson area and need any RV work give them a call.



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Thanks Dad.

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Glad they got er fixed up without it being a challenge to get covered/fixed properly.
Gotta ask though, what’s with the backwards looking hub caps on the rear duals?
Never seen hubcaps in droves that make them look like steers before.


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"Gotta ask though, what’s with the backwards looking hub caps on the rear duals?
Never seen hubcaps in droves that make them look like steers before. "

Grit dog, I don't have a clue what you're referring to. This is how the rig came from the factory and I see these rims frequently on other motorhomes. Is it that they are "outies vs innies"? [emoticon]

Freedom RV did a nice job of buffing out all 4 though and I plan on taking the coach back to Freedom for a buff and wax job after our long January - Quartzsite, Ehrenburg and Lake Havasu trip.

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Some good points made about not having a spare tire.
So, I came across 2 different bumper mounts and an underframe mounting system for a spare wheel/tire. I was Looking at buying a spare wheel also, I've never owned a dually before, so on the Ford E450, are all 6 wheels the same wheel, just the 2 rear outer ones reversed? Is there anything else I need to know about changing rear dually wheels myself? My class C has Bigfoot hydraulic leveling jacks is it OK to use those for lifting the wheels completely off the ground? Thanks.

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jamesroadking wrote:

I've never owned a dually before, so on the Ford E450, are all 6 wheels the same?
Yes!

A spare tire with standard Ford E450 steel wheel is used in all 6 positions. Some people like to rotate their 6 tires around. I personally think that is a bad idea for the rubber tires, but I mention "rotation" to support the fact that the spare is used in any position.

Regarding using your hydraulic lifting jacks for changing any tire. If you can raise any corner so high that you can lift the tires completely off the ground, you can utilize the jacks for that purpose. BUT, you need to take extra precaution. You MUST first block the other wheels adequately so the rig does not move when working on it lifted. Break loose all lug nuts prior to lifting the rig. After the tire change, snug the lugs as much as possible with the lug wrench without jerking the rig, making sure everything is in position with no "play", then lower the rig so the tires make limited contact with the ground so they don't spin, then torque them to proper specification. Then completely lower the rig and check the lugs again.

This is my opinion. Others may contradict my post here.

* This post was edited 12/01/19 08:42pm by ron.dittmer *


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My shop uses my jacks to raise the entire rv off the ground. They support it using HD jack stands.
AFAIK, the idea is to raise the rig as level as you can w/o lifting one end too high. My jacks might have an extension height limit as you lift each jack at a time, I assume its to prevent damaging the jacks at too steep an angle.

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I initially mounted our spare on the rear bumper. Bought what I thought was a fairly heavy duty mount and set out from Arizona on a cross country trip. Made it as far as Maine before it completely failed with the steel bracket fracturing when we hit one too many potholes.

IMHO: Most bumpers found on smaller motorhomes are woefully under engineered for carrying the weight of a spare, multiple bikes and the ever popular generator mount.

Apparently there is just too much weight and movement in a vertically mounted spare much like an overloaded bike rack that a structural failure is inevitable. Fortunately I heard it break and was able to remove the tire and bracket without any issues {the spare lived in the overhead of the cabover until we got to the Nexus factory in Elkhart where I had them install the under the coach custom mount}.

The weight is down low and though you do have to crawl under a couple of feet to loosen the bolt that secures the spare it has served us well. About every third time I have the other tires checked/set for the appropriate psi at Discount Tire I ask them to check the spare as well but I always bump up the tip for having them crawl under.

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Bigfoot Florida told me if I manually to raise our Entegra 24B to raise it by the two left side jacks, or the two right side, or the two front, or the two rear, but do not raise just one corner at a time. I guess you could twist the frame.
I guess if you were to carry a spare in the rear you probably should have a mounting bracket that fits into the 2 inch receiver hitch, mines rated at 7,500 lb. towing 750 lb. tongue weight.

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jamesroadking wrote:

I guess you could twist the frame.
I understand where you are coming from. But I figure the suspension is mounted near about the four corners of the frame. Imagine hitting a rise in the pavement on one side or the other.....frost heaves to Alaska being an extreme. Each time a tire hits, it not only lifts a corner, it does so with a lot of force. So I figure a slow gentile lifting of a corner (in the right place of coarse) should be much less of a concern.

I use a bottle jack and lift where the rear axle is mounted to the suspension. Up front, I lift on the lower control arm in just the right place where it is balanced and strongest. I would lift at the frame, but the bottle jack is too stubby. I'd have to set it on tall blocks of wood or similar.

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