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Posted: 10/31/19 04:57pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Grit dog wrote:

... OE wheels are designed with a SIGNIFICANT factor of safety ...


Talking with my local truck and tire dealers, they said most of the rim failures they see are with after markets. They felt the OE rims at max were solid, where-as after-market rims at max could be iffy.

Hovering around 3,500 load (per rear tire) on 3,590 rated OEM rims and 3,640 rated tires, they felt my tires were the only thing worth reconsidering.

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I don’t think I would ever have a problem with the Vision 19.5s that I had on my SRW. They were rated at 4500 and I never got close to doubling that number on my rear axle. Mainly because I left stuff home.

On my F450, of course, there is no issue stock wheels include steel inners on the DRW and Alcoa fronts and outers.

Fwiw, I think I remember someone breaking a stock wheel as well. Yes, you have to overload them, but it’s still possible especially on a SRW.


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Give me forged Alcoa's any day.


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LOL How many do you think check the axle, tire and wheel capacity?

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Just purchased and installed the highest weight rated wheel I could find for a 18” Wheel. Method 305 NV Heavy Duty 4500 Rating for 8 Lug Application. Paired these wheels with 295/70R/18 Cooper Tires 4080 lb rating. The factory OEM Wheels rating are 3650 lb.

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Cast wheels belong on grocery getters and mall crawlers. Looks mean nothing, infact if the style has more air than metal it's probably weaker than stock.


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Posted: 11/01/19 06:59am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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We specifically ordered a KMC wheel with a load rating of 3,640 pounds, but this isn’t what we got.



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ticki2 wrote:

I had an oem rear steel duel break around the bolts like that . Truck was not overloaded . Sometimes stuff just happens , possibly an original defect that took time to show up . Usually you can assume an oem steel wheel is rated at least as much as an original tire the manufacturer puts on it . Finding the actual rating of an oem wheel is near impossible .


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FYI/question - on a 1-ton, the tire, wheel, axle, spring and frame ratings tend to be max'ed out equally, so upgrading just one component doesn't necessarily buy you much. I read what seemed like a fairly competent posting elsewhere that the lug bolts (pattern, count, size) are another weight-rated link-in-the-chain to consider. While the tires always win the weakest-link award, I wonder where lug bolts fall in the line-up?

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I think the lug bolts don’t carry much if the wheels are hub centric. However, I have heard of bolts breaking if the wheels get loose.

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