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Posted: 11/08/19 02:38pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

2012Coleman wrote:

When I first heard of this on the news I listen to, I made bets of how long it would it would take for someone to start posting about it on here, and then how many posts it would take before someone said something like "that's why I carry a gun"

Won both bets.


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Posted: 11/09/19 09:23am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Cloud Dancer wrote:

Don't overthink it. Just practice a lot in order to get good at fast-draw. Then, know that:
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The Glock 19 9mm is easier to shoot well than the .40 caliber pistol. While recoil energy may be calculated, the easiest way is to calculate power factor. ... 9mm defense loads rate 13 to 14, the .40 runs to 17 and over. The 230-grain .45 is at 20; the .45 ACP 185-grain standard load is at about 17.


It seems like a snubnosed .44 magnum with good grips might be the best to carry in the rig. (Ya might want to hold it with two hands, though.) [emoticon]


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Posted: 11/09/19 09:52am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Or just stay home behind locked doors where you are safe. [emoticon]

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pnichols wrote:

Cloud Dancer wrote:

Don't overthink it. Just practice a lot in order to get good at fast-draw. Then, know that:
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The Glock 19 9mm is easier to shoot well than the .40 caliber pistol. While recoil energy may be calculated, the easiest way is to calculate power factor. ... 9mm defense loads rate 13 to 14, the .40 runs to 17 and over. The 230-grain .45 is at 20; the .45 ACP 185-grain standard load is at about 17.


It seems like a snubnosed .44 magnum with good grips might be the best to carry in the rig. (Ya might want to hold it with two hands, though.) [emoticon]
Now there's some seriously bad advice, considering the penetrating power. Lots of opportunity for damage to be done several trailers over. Don't take Dirty Harry at face value.


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As far as defense weapons I vote for the 10mm in Glock, Rock Islands 1911 or Colt Delta Elite ad a number of others.I also favor a number of other calibers but the 10mm hass it all over the .45 which wtoul not penetrate an old Model T's door.
I heard a non gunner say something about over penetration well spray and pray is not the idea. practice and marksmanship is. Almost any caliber will penetrate both sides of an RV including .22s. A 10mm with liberty Civil Defense Rounds willnot go through a tank but will take down any animal out there.

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Posted: 11/09/19 01:07pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

When a gun is pointed at you, what the hell makes you think you will be able to pull yours out and "win"?
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... and here begins the bad advice from purported firearms experts counterpoised by the ridiculous scenarios put forth by those who are scared of their own shadows let alone a loud, scary firearm...

Time to close a thread who's title is utterly redundant... Of course there are bad people out there... Did anyone need this level of enlightenment?

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down home wrote:

As far as defense weapons I vote for the 10mm in Glock, Rock Islands 1911 or Colt Delta Elite ad a number of others.I also favor a number of other calibers but the 10mm hass it all over the .45 which wtoul not penetrate an old Model T's door.
I heard a non gunner say something about over penetration well spray and pray is not the idea. practice and marksmanship is. Almost any caliber will penetrate both sides of an RV including .22s. A 10mm with liberty Civil Defense Rounds willnot go through a tank but will take down any animal out there.
And heaven knows you won't miss when you're shooting at someone who may have the option of shooting back. Check out how many rounds are usually shot by "trained professional" vs the number of rounds that actually hit someone.

Just consider the warning given by most TV shows: "Don't try this at home". And take it to heart.

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I'm atheist but I call for Jesus after the last two posts...

Between the chap who wouldn't consider defending himself because "you shouldn't try this at home" which is, absolutely, the place you need to "try this" to the nicely religious person who, due to his beliefs, will allow all his family to be killed by an idiot because he fears that his ownership of a firearm will result in his death from said firearm I weep...

Both of you are the people the nasty people love... they pray to their god that you will be out there and that they are guided to your house at 0300... Ready and waiting to be prey... Funny how pray and prey are such similar words isn't it?

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His weapon of choice was a 38 cylinder mounted to a 32 frame. No, the bullet would not fit thru the barrel.


And there is the ultimate stupidity... I'd destroy that too but you need to understand that your father was an utter fool. He had a piece of metal that he could brandish if he felt threatened but that had no "teeth" whatsoever... If you make a threat you really need to be able to follow through on that threat.. When you tell someone you'll fire and he says "do it or you're dead" it's really important actually to be able to do it because what follows won't be pretty - and I hope they don't deal with your wife and children before they finish you off because your heart will be utterly ripped from you as you see what happens to them before your turn comes...

Laugh if you like but there are lots of people out there that are that sadistic and cruel...

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B.O. Plenty wrote:

When a gun is pointed at you, what the hell makes you think you will be able to pull yours out and "win"?
B.O.


Being armed means having the ability to try to to save your life...but nothing is certain in this world. So practice, and more practice is prudent and increases your odds.
If you don't win at least you have the opportunity to try.
Not having the tools the weapon means your chances are slim to none.
Even Jesus said if you can't afford a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.From that point, of having the weapon, it is on you to learn how to use it well. Weapons are neither good nor evil that comes from whoever has it or a hammer or baseball bat, big rock or whatever.
I fail to see the logic, the reason, the morality, in being being defenseless, or not trying to defend yourself.

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