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There have been a couple of threads on this story from South Padre Island, but I ran across a story this morning that may give some folks pause.
It seems that as the Cartels have increased their agressiveness, they are specifically now targeting HD trucks with diesels for their cargo capacity, to be used for "Up armoring"
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That couple may have made themselves extra attractive as a target by having a more capable Pickup.

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This has been happening in Texas for years. The ones they go after the most are older Super Duties because there are so many out there that parts are cheap. And people who do drugs often say that they aren't hurting anyone else, but there is a whole host of people hurt and killed just to get those drugs in their hands.

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Police believe the suspects(s) were from the Corpus area. KIII news


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ShinerBock wrote:

And people who do drugs often say that they aren't hurting anyone else, but there is a whole host of people hurt and killed just to get those drugs in their hands.


But if the folks that want to do drugs could walk into the store and buy what they wanted? Where would the Cartel power come from? I understand history is evil, but look at the growth of organized crime in the time alcohol was illegal? Then look at the rights we have given up because of the war on drugs.

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Fords were popular trucks to steal because they had the simplest ignitions of the big three to bypass until electronic interlocks were finally added. Older Toyota's and Honda's are desirable theft vehicles for the same reason Ford trucks were.

I'm surprised how easy it is to take a vehicle out of the country that does not belong you. The border crossings should be a good filter preventing international thefts - If you do not own the vehicle, you should have a legal document from owner allowing your use. There should be no question who these two people are that crossed the border unless the documents were forged - It may be difficult to track down the person, but the identity should be known.


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JRscooby wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

And people who do drugs often say that they aren't hurting anyone else, but there is a whole host of people hurt and killed just to get those drugs in their hands.


But if the folks that want to do drugs could walk into the store and buy what they wanted? Where would the Cartel power come from? I understand history is evil, but look at the growth of organized crime in the time alcohol was illegal? Then look at the rights we have given up because of the war on drugs.
There would be even more deaths and crime if all drugs were legalized. Just look at the opioid crisis today. That is a quasi legal drug situation. If opioids were available over the counter even more people would be addicted and consequently more would OD and die. To this day I believe the fact that drugs like cocaine were always illegal were a factor in keeping people like me from being a user. When something is illegal, that is enough of a deterrent to keep a whole lot of people from doing things that are stupid and harmful.

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JRscooby wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

And people who do drugs often say that they aren't hurting anyone else, but there is a whole host of people hurt and killed just to get those drugs in their hands.


But if the folks that want to do drugs could walk into the store and buy what they wanted? Where would the Cartel power come from? I understand history is evil, but look at the growth of organized crime in the time alcohol was illegal? Then look at the rights we have given up because of the war on drugs.
There would be even more deaths and crime if all drugs were legalized. Just look at the opioid crisis today. That is a quasi legal drug situation. If opioids were available over the counter even more people would be addicted and consequently more would OD and die. To this day I believe the fact that drugs like cocaine were always illegal were a factor in keeping people like me from being a user. When something is illegal, that is enough of a deterrent to keep a whole lot of people from doing things that are stupid and harmful.


I was just about the say the same thing. Just look at how many people die each year because people cannot drink responsibly and that is perfectly legal. Some people can drink and even use drugs responsibly with out harming or effecting others. However, many can't and should not have access to these substances. What is or isn't the most effective solution is another debate.

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Bedlam wrote:

Fords were popular trucks to steal because they had the simplest ignitions of the big three to bypass until electronic interlocks were finally added. Older Toyota's and Honda's are desirable theft vehicles for the same reason Ford trucks were.

I'm surprised how easy it is to take a vehicle out of the country that does not belong you. The border crossings should be a good filter preventing international thefts - If you do not own the vehicle, you should have a legal document from owner allowing your use. There should be no question who these two people are that crossed the border unless the documents were forged - It may be difficult to track down the person, but the identity should be known.
Who would you empower to investigate and enforce those inspections? US Customs has no contact with anyone leaving the country, any current inspections are done by the customs departments of the countries being entered. Not sure Mexican and Canadian Customs have or even want the ability to examine the authenticity of vehicle titles and ownership. Since apparently these vehicles are taken directly to Mexico after the theft, they are likely not reported and entered into any data base as a stolen vehicle by the time the border is crossed. Adding exit examinations to US Customs duties would essentially require doubling the agency all in an effort to find a few stolen trucks. Probably not a good use of resources. As for Mexico, they have bigger problems to solve before they get down interdicting stolen vehicles.

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westernrvparkowner wrote:

JRscooby wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

And people who do drugs often say that they aren't hurting anyone else, but there is a whole host of people hurt and killed just to get those drugs in their hands.


But if the folks that want to do drugs could walk into the store and buy what they wanted? Where would the Cartel power come from? I understand history is evil, but look at the growth of organized crime in the time alcohol was illegal? Then look at the rights we have given up because of the war on drugs.
There would be even more deaths and crime if all drugs were legalized. Just look at the opioid crisis today. That is a quasi legal drug situation. If opioids were available over the counter even more people would be addicted and consequently more would OD and die. To this day I believe the fact that drugs like cocaine were always illegal were a factor in keeping people like me from being a user. When something is illegal, that is enough of a deterrent to keep a whole lot of people from doing things that are stupid and harmful.


Would there? If somebody realized they had a problem, could ask for help and not worry about going to jail?
If you do any reading into the history of drug laws say from 1890s to mid 1930s with a open mind you will see most have a base at least partly in racism.
I'm not saying there should be no regulation, but the ban makes no sense. Before I was a teenager, if I had walked into the liquor store to buy a pint, no way would the owner sell because he could loose his license. (And on main street, Grandma would know before I got home) But I knew which window on which ally to tap on to get a pint of shine, no questions asked.

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westernrvparkowner wrote:

Who would you empower to investigate and enforce those inspections? US Customs has no contact with anyone leaving the country, any current inspections are done by the customs departments of the countries being entered. Not sure Mexican and Canadian Customs have or even want the ability to examine the authenticity of vehicle titles and ownership. Since apparently these vehicles are taken directly to Mexico after the theft, they are likely not reported and entered into any data base as a stolen vehicle by the time the border is crossed. Adding exit examinations to US Customs duties would essentially require doubling the agency all in an effort to find a few stolen trucks. Probably not a good use of resources. As for Mexico, they have bigger problems to solve before they get down interdicting stolen vehicles.

I'm more familiar with the northern border where Canadians ask me plenty of questions about what I am hauling in my trailer and registration for all the vehicles I take across (may be as many as five in my case).

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