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Posted: 11/05/19 10:12am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

It was easy for me to get alcohol when I was underage and if drugs were legal it would be easy for our youth to get them too. I don't want my high school age grandkids to have easy access to meth and heroin.

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Who would you empower to investigate and enforce those inspections? US Customs has no contact with anyone leaving the country, any current inspections are done by the customs departments of the countries being entered. Not sure Mexican and Canadian Customs have or even want the ability to examine the authenticity of vehicle titles and ownership. Since apparently these vehicles are taken directly to Mexico after the theft, they are likely not reported and entered into any data base as a stolen vehicle by the time the border is crossed. Adding exit examinations to US Customs duties would essentially require doubling the agency all in an effort to find a few stolen trucks. Probably not a good use of resources. As for Mexico, they have bigger problems to solve before they get down interdicting stolen vehicles.

I'm more familiar with the northern border where Canadians ask me plenty of questions about what I am hauling in my trailer and registration for all the vehicles I take across (may be as many as five in my case).


We went to Victoria via ferry from Port Angeles WA over New Years in a rental car. Not a question was asked about the car crossing over. Checked our passports, asked the reason for our visit and sent us on our way.

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danrclem wrote:

It was easy for me to get alcohol when I was underage and if drugs were legal it would be easy for our youth to get them too. I don't want my high school age grandkids to have easy access to meth and heroin.



News flash....

They probably already do, and either just do not know, or wont go near it..

You would be surprised at what issues the schools systems have today and don't publish.


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ford truck guy wrote:

danrclem wrote:

It was easy for me to get alcohol when I was underage and if drugs were legal it would be easy for our youth to get them too. I don't want my high school age grandkids to have easy access to meth and heroin.



News flash....

They probably already do, and either just do not know, or wont go near it..

You would be surprised at what issues the schools systems have today and don't publish.


I live in a back=woods, country town in the middle of the Appalachian Mountains. My daughters attend a high school with less than 500 students in grade 8-12. My sophmore daughter knows who uses alcohol, marijuana and pills and who she could go to to get anything along those lines.

Meth is available on YOUR street corner, as it is mine. Heroin is just a phone call away to anyone. If you have the desire for it, you can find it.

If your grandkids have not tried drugs and/or alcohol, it's because of the parents and the friends they have chosen, not that it's not available.


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fx2tom wrote:

Bedlam wrote:

I'm more familiar with the northern border where Canadians ask me plenty of questions about what I am hauling in my trailer and registration for all the vehicles I take across (may be as many as five in my case).

We went to Victoria via ferry from Port Angeles WA over New Years in a rental car. Not a question was asked about the car crossing over. Checked our passports, asked the reason for our visit and sent us on our way.

The fact that I tow a 20' enclosed trailer behind my camper into which they cannot see surely makes me more of a target of suspicion (I'm sure the handles I use on the forums doesn't help either).


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Well, we can see how well prohibition worked when it came to controlling liquor. Just do some checking and read about the rise to power of organized crime, Al Capone and the like, on the sales/dealing of illegal alcohol. Making a product illegal doesn't really work, never has, never will.


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fj12ryder wrote:

Well, we can see how well prohibition worked when it came to controlling liquor. Just do some checking and read about the rise to power of organized crime, Al Capone and the like, on the sales/dealing of illegal alcohol. Making a product illegal doesn't really work, never has, never will.


The amount of alcohol related deaths is more than twice the amount of people killed by guns (including suicide, murder, and accidental) every year. Don't get me wrong I love my beer (as my name implies), but the fact is alcohol kills way more people per capita being legal than it did when it was illegal.

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I had no intention of this this becoming a legalize everything thread, but I will chime in on one thought.
To the legalize everything folks, who want to use alcohol as their justification.
I think you are missing what was the actual objective.
Before prohibition, alcohol was freely sold, and was untaxed.
After prohibition the government immediately taxed it, and any other "vices" they could. From tobacco, to gambling, eliminating, and later legalizing things people want is not about any holier than thou ideals. It always becomes about the Money.
If you doubt this look at Colorado and Kali and the taxing of Pot.
The Government NEVER gave anybody anything. It's always about how a petty beauracrat can tax and control you.

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wanderingaimlessly wrote:


Before prohibition, alcohol was freely sold, and was untaxed.


Fact check. 1791 tax alcohol to pay for revolution.

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ShinerBock wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:

Well, we can see how well prohibition worked when it came to controlling liquor. Just do some checking and read about the rise to power of organized crime, Al Capone and the like, on the sales/dealing of illegal alcohol. Making a product illegal doesn't really work, never has, never will.


The amount of alcohol related deaths is more than twice the amount of people killed by guns (including suicide, murder, and accidental) every year. Don't get me wrong I love my beer (as my name implies), but the fact is alcohol kills way more people per capita being legal than it did when it was illegal.
We're not discussing the legality/illegality question, but rather the groups that rise in power when something people want is made illegal, for whatever reason. The opium trade begat The Opium Wars, Prohibition brought forth Organized Crime and American gangsters, marijuana and modern drugs have delivered the Cartels and drug dealers from other countries. People will get what they crave, making it illegal simply means they will become criminals to do it.

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