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Posted: 11/09/19 06:29pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Everyone knows there are "entry level" RV's and then the scale goes upward to true luxury. I've been watching a lot of YouTube videos, specifically Big Truck-Big RV channel which show houses new models of RV's of all sorts. It's actually become one of my favorite channels on Youtube.

Well, I've stumbled in a group of videos show casing VanLeigh Beacon 5er's from Tiffin which comes in around the $135,000 price tag.

Then there is the Grand Design Momentum which comes in around the $110,000.

And how about Riverstone Legacy, high end, $100,000.

My Montana High Country listed at $77,000. It's a good camper (now) since I've done several self-improvements and fixes to it.

But, even at $77,000, as it came from the factory, (in my opinion) falls far short of what one expect for $77,000.

So those 5er's with a price tag over $100,000??? True!!... the "glitch" is really nice! They are absolutely beautiful gorgeous "campers". The electronics, the technology, the outside paint jobs, all the unique ways they've utilized space for storage, all those things that are appealing to the eye, are way over the top! Beautiful.

But in the real world, traveling with them, cross country trips, bouncing down the road, parking at campgrounds, interstate driving with bridges that have those horrid expansion joints and when you hit them you swear you've just flattened all the tires on your vehicles, rail road tracks that are rough as washboards, turning, twisting, uneven roads, backing up, skidding tires, normal wear and tear, real world use??? ... how do they hold up? Are they really worth the $100,000 and upward price tag? Are they really better built? Or is that $100,000 and upward price tag to cover all the "glitz" and modern technology in them?

If you have one of these over $100,000 5er's, how has it held up over the course of time? I have no plans to sell or trade my Montana. It's perfect for us (and completely paid for)! I'm keeping it for a long time! But still, when I see these videos, it makes my jaw drop and I think to myself, "Wow!"

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My first Redwood was a "16" and carried an MSRP of Over $125,000.00..

It was like new until April of this year when it was flattened by a neighbors tree.. I am hoping that my new " 20 " Redwood will hold up as well as the first one...

I had 1 instance of a day/night shade bracket breaking in transit, I replaced the bracket and used black zip ties in an X pattern around the bracket and rail for added support. The Independent Suspension really does help with longevity in my eyes..

At the end of the day, they are ALL RV's rolling down the wonderful highway system we have here in the US and MOST if not ALL will suffer their share of problems no matter the price tag..

* This post was edited 11/09/19 06:42pm by ford truck guy *


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One observation I can make here is high end or low end you get the same cheap plastic exterior oven fan exhaust ducts, roof vent pipe covers, outdoor shower access doors etc,. Airstream is the exception to these. I have replaced my shore power access port door three times. Overall the RV industry should be ashamed of the lack of pride in the product. People spend their hard earned money and get junk. Just my opinion based on experience, talking with people and customer complaints I read about right here


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Oasisbob wrote:

Overall the RV industry should be ashamed of the lack of pride in the product.

This is probably the most fitting comment I've ever seen on the forum.

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X2 you said it all. yet we keep buying there junk.

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We have a 2017 River Stone Legacy purchased in summer of 29016 and have spent every summer since in it traveling, so far the things that went wrong are wheel for the spare tire replaced due to a recall, bedroom slide ram replaced by Lippert for a leaking seal, keyless door lock replaced by RV Lock due to the key side becoming hard to use, also a awning motor under warranty. One more thing the manufacture upgraded our tankless water heater from the Girard to the Truma for us as a bonus at a rally because they switched brands and so many folks seemed to have trouble with the Girard, and believe me we were not going to argue. We have been very pleased with our camper and how it is holding up, they do take longer to build them, around 2 weeks then another 2 weeks to paint, if we were to look again they would be first inline.


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Posted: 11/10/19 05:24am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

After owning two 5th wheels we looked really hard at all models and brands when trying to decide on a new one. It seemed to us that the only difference between a medium price model of around $50K and one over $100K was the overall size (length and height) and appearance both inside and out. Full body paint sure adds to the looks and the interior appointments can be luxurious to look at. However to me at least I was more concerned about how it held up after a few years of being towed. Would an extra $50K really give me the guarantee of never breaking a spring hanger, or a cracked frame, or de-lamination issues?? Would I never have to worry about re sealing the joints? Are the tires Goodyear Endurance or some cheap China bomb that is ready to explode on a given day? All of these issues are continuously mentioned on this and other forums. I really doubted spending another $50K was going to give me anything more other than appearance and luxury. In my opinion travel and camping all comes down to staying in a campground near a forest, beach or lake. Having luxury is not an issue. I'm not a "look at me" type of person. Just give me the basics and I'm satisfied. It looks rather odd to see a 40 foot 5th wheel in a National Park plus many parks cannot accept RV's of this length or height. So basically the extra $50K is just giving you eye candy. Airstream would be the only high dollar RV that is giving you superior quality for the extra money.

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There are two Beacons in our park and they stand out looking like something special.

One I believe replaced a Bighorn 3575el like mine, and I have been wanting to talk to the owner about the Beacon. I will try to do that this upcoming week and report back.

Now: I have a friend from BC Canada that has a VanLeigh lesser model and was leaving last spring, to take as he called it, the P-O-S back to the factory to have them fix the many problems. From Arizona the BC, that is a long trip home!


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Posted: 11/10/19 06:29am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Likes to tow wrote:

Airstream would be the only high dollar RV that is giving you superior quality for the extra money.


Lance and Arctic Fox are noted to having pretty good quality for a bit more on the price tag.

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Me Again wrote:

Likes to tow wrote:

Airstream would be the only high dollar RV that is giving you superior quality for the extra money.


Lance and Arctic Fox are noted to having pretty good quality for a bit more on the price tag.

Never looked at an Arctic Fox, but we did look at several Lance trailers. They all had the same cheap a$$ components as every other trailer out there.

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