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Posted: 11/10/19 08:41am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Last Saturday we were crossing the Smoky Mountains to Cherokee and was near Gatlinburg. There was a massive traffic jam and obviously caused by wildlife along the roadside. After a few minutes we finally made it to the scene and there were two bear cubs and their mom near the road. The cubs were climbing up and down a tree like kids playing on a playground. It was close enough to the road for anyone to witness this rare event. People had parked their cars and were standing there enjoying the show. Traffic was still moving but at a very slow pace. Then suddenly two motorcyclist, a man and woman, begin to rev their engines to scare the cubs away. They had straight pipes with no mufflers and the sound was profane!!! They obviously were angry over the traffic slow down and wanted to end it by scaring away the cubs with loud noise. They were yelling and cussing at the tourists and children enjoying the rare event. Seeing cubs is rare!! I have never witnessed a more cruel display from anyone. Here is the bottom line....if you travel the roads in National Parks then be prepared for people to slow down or stop. If this crimps your style then stay out of national parks. People come there to enjoy nature. This is not a speedway or the closest route to where you may be heading. This couple were jerks and deserved to have their rear ends kicked back into last week!!!

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Posted: 11/10/19 10:10am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

SO what did you do.......??

Confront them
Yell at them
Voice your objection
Sit in your vehicle fuming
Obivously did not kick their behinds.....


Observing WILD life.....especially a Sow with 2 cubs should be done from within your vehicle that is slowly moving along

Folks on motorcyles are 'exposed' and rightfully concerned with traffic jam with Mama Bear/Cubs right there.
Their attempts to scare the Bears into leaving might have been out of concern for their own well being vs just being rude

2 sides of the coin......


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Posted: 11/10/19 10:41am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Old-Biscuit wrote:

SO what did you do.......??

Confront them
Yell at them
Voice your objection
Sit in your vehicle fuming
Obivously did not kick their behinds.....


Observing WILD life.....especially a Sow with 2 cubs should be done from within your vehicle that is slowly moving along

Folks on motorcyles are 'exposed' and rightfully concerned with traffic jam with Mama Bear/Cubs right there.
Their attempts to scare the Bears into leaving might have been out of concern for their own well being vs just being rude

2 sides of the coin......


I can see you do not understand the situation and possibly I can clarify it somewhat. The rude jerk cyclist had started reving their engines LONG before they had moved up to the scene and could have no idea what people were gawking at. They were being held up and this angered them. Their aggression was not out of fear for themselves but angry at the crowds. The bears were 75 to 100 feet from the edge of the road and about 25 feet above the roadbed ........no threat to anyone. Mother bear showed no sign or fear but the loud obnoxious noise from straight pipe Harley's did cause them to walk away. The profanity from the cyclist was a dead give a way that they were angry from the slow moving traffic. I will state this again.....If you are in a terrible hurry or having trouble dealing with crowds and traffic stay out of national parks! Smoky Mountains in particular....the most visited park in the country. Things like this will happen. If you can't deal with it stay away. Seeing bear cubs in the wild is a gift of nature. Rude Harleys with straight pipes are annoying.

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Posted: 11/10/19 11:01am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Folks on motorcyles are 'exposed' and rightfully concerned with traffic jam with Mama Bear/Cubs right there.
Their attempts to scare the Bears into leaving might have been out of concern for their own well being vs just being rude

2 sides of the coin....


Nope. They were rude and disrespectful. If riding through an area like that puts you in danger THEN DON'T DO IT. Makes them no different than the idiots who get too close to the wildlife. Go through in a car or don't go to the area. Personally I would have found a park ranger and had them spoken to about harassing wildlife.


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Posted: 11/10/19 11:42am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Crowe wrote:

Folks on motorcyles are 'exposed' and rightfully concerned with traffic jam with Mama Bear/Cubs right there.
Their attempts to scare the Bears into leaving might have been out of concern for their own well being vs just being rude

2 sides of the coin....


Nope. They were rude and disrespectful. If riding through an area like that puts you in danger THEN DON'T DO IT. Makes them no different than the idiots who get too close to the wildlife. Go through in a car or don't go to the area. Personally I would have found a park ranger and had them spoken to about harassing wildlife.
Wrong again. The road through Smoky Mountain Park is not just a road through the park, it is also a relatively short, scenic route through the mountains to Cherokee. I've been through SMNP many times and have never seen bears, so I don't hesitate to travel through there on a motorcycle. And I have seen a bear in the area but not in the park, so should I avoid all that area for fear that there may be a bear around? But I do get concerned with being exposed to dangers that I have no control over.

I have been chased by cattle on the unfenced areas of the western states, been chased by dogs in town, and been exposed to, but not chased, by bison, moose, and tourists in Yellowstone Nat'l Park. Now according to your precepts I'm an idiot for exposing myself, and passenger, to those myriad dangers.

I do agree that the loud pipes and profanity were totally uncalled for, but I have also been concerned when blocked in by people who were totally unaware that there were other people around who didn't think those bison were so cute and cuddly. Want to come to a stop and gawk at the "wildlife"? Pull over and stop. Crimenently I've been stopped behind people who stopped in the middle of the road to point at the prairie dogs for crying out loud.


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Posted: 11/10/19 12:31pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Another perspective. Although I agree these people were unaware of WHY the hold up and acted rudely about the situation traffic being out of their control in any instance it is NOT GOOD for bears to get comfortable around people. I live 30 miles outside G'burg so I consider myself a 'local' and see news stories about bears that get too comfortable with people risk being put down by the park authorities. It has happened, with the Elk heard too.

I know it is a "rare instance" to see these animals but when people do this it teaches the bear that man is not a danger and they do not fear approaching people. These are WILD animals and are or can be seriously dangerous. Helping to get them comfortable with people intentional or not will only endanger the bears life.

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Posted: 11/10/19 01:47pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Loud pipes = jerks!

When they aren’t annoying wildlife they are deliberately annoyingly any and all within earshot.





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Jerks come in vehicles too, we were in Joshua National tree park in our RV and I spotted a coyote walking toward us on my side of the road at an angle that would take it across to the other lane, I stoped with trafic behind and the vehicle coming towards us also stopped, the coyote wandered a bit smelling and going about his buisness, not even a minute after a jerk started honking and seconds after past the RV scaring the coyote, I guess the idiot was congratulating himself when the second vehicle coming towards us pulls out with all the light bar lights on, so it took us a little longer while the idiot was escorted to the next parking lot by the park ranger.

Idiots do come in all vehicles.

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Posted: 11/10/19 03:04pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

It's amazing how we treat each other and the world around us. People are so impatient and not willing to wait one second.

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The Rude Jerk(s) as you called Him/Them are criminals. Breaking several laws in what they did, And you SHOULD have buzzed the fuzz so they can be invited to a meeting with one of the area's more distinguished citizens... His honor the judge.. May only be a traffic citation level offense (Straight pipes) or may be worse (Depending on the level of fire hazard you could get jail time for straight pipes.. Yup. no spark arrester.


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