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Posted: 12/09/19 01:31pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Reisender wrote:


Generally speaking I find non EVers to be considerably more offensive on this forum.

I have my doubts that GM will produce any significant amount of EV’s in the next 5 years. They are having difficulty producing 3000 month right now.

Jmho.

Did you see where GM and LG Chem have created a joint venture to build batteries? Each is investing nearly $1 million.

They expect capacity to be 50% more than the Tesla Gigafactory.

GM is investing $3 million to build electric trucks in the Detroit-Hamtramck plant.

Can you please share what a "significant amount" would be? I would like to track progress against your measure.

I have doubts that Tesla will produce any significant profit myself. They haven't produced much in years. I would call significant profit $6 Billion GAAP Profit in a calendar year.


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stsmark wrote:

Turtle, I was thinking the same thing. Out at night with questionable headlights and no side mirrors? Frankly the hubcaps are just plain silly.


Agree with Turtle and sts

Don't think they are DOT certified and those sharp edges deadly

Hardened SS...?!? Why ? Maybe anti-door dings very high on Tusk’s gotta have list

Surely welded flat sheets and ground down to form those sharp seam/edges...then did they come back to harden it after ? Hardened is brittle...wonder if they told Tusk and who made the decision for the marketing “hardened”...

Another possible possible basis for the look...movie “Upgrade”

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Posted: 12/09/19 01:41pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Only seen occupant safety tests. Never a bystander test.

Although I do wonder about how well that SS will absorb energy in a collision.


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ShinerBock wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:



Except that they are the ones being left eating dust with Tesla EVs.


Until it passes you at the charging station about 100 miles later. What is the point of all that power when you can't go above 70 in fear of hurting your range when towing?


These are actually situations in the freeways of California and Reno -- unlike your delusional scenarios drawn out from you beautiful dreams after eating two tons of left-over turkey from last Thanksgiving.[emoticon]


So these stations allow you to recharge back to full in less than 15 minutes to make it another 100 miles while hooked up to a trailer? Because I can go well over 250 miles in three and a half hours on one tank of fuel without stopping at 70 mph.


I'll put it here slowly so you can catch up and understand.

I may also be repeating what EV owners already said, most Tesla owners charge their EVs at home.

Let me know which part of that you don't understand.

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BenK wrote:

stsmark wrote:

Turtle, I was thinking the same thing. Out at night with questionable headlights and no side mirrors? Frankly the hubcaps are just plain silly.


Agree with Turtle and sts

Don't think they are DOT certified and those sharp edges deadly

Hardened SS...?!? Why ? Maybe anti-door dings very high on Tusk’s gotta have list

Surely welded flat sheets and ground down to form those sharp seam/edges...then did they come back to harden it after ? Hardened is brittle...wonder if they told Tusk and who made the decision for the marketing “hardened”...

Another possible possible basis for the look...movie “Upgrade”

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I like the movie upgrade.

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GM is investing $3 million to build electric trucks in the Detroit-Hamtramck plant.



I wonder how far $3 million will go. Unless GM and LG want to compete with Energizer battery.[emoticon][emoticon][emoticon]

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Posted: 12/09/19 02:06pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:



Except that they are the ones being left eating dust with Tesla EVs.


Until it passes you at the charging station about 100 miles later. What is the point of all that power when you can't go above 70 in fear of hurting your range when towing?


These are actually situations in the freeways of California and Reno -- unlike your delusional scenarios drawn out from you beautiful dreams after eating two tons of left-over turkey from last Thanksgiving.[emoticon]


So these stations allow you to recharge back to full in less than 15 minutes to make it another 100 miles while hooked up to a trailer? Because I can go well over 250 miles in three and a half hours on one tank of fuel without stopping at 70 mph.


I'll put it here slowly so you can catch up and understand.

I may also be repeating what EV owners already said, most Tesla owners charge their EVs at home.

Let me know which part of that you don't understand.


If you want to start talking to me like I am stupid then I will respond in kind....

What I am talking about is towing more than 200 or even 100 miles away like many RVers here do. Yeah, that initial full charge from home may get to 100 miles(maybe), but what about after that? Are you planning on going over the speed limit to catch up or stay ahead? If so, that will reduce your range significantly.

If I raced this Tesla truck 250 miles towing a 10-12k rv, I bet I would get there first with me doing the speed limit and the Tesla truck doing 20 mph over the speed limit. Why, because the Tesla truck will have to recharge for an hour(probably multiple times at that speed) before it gets there and will possibly have to unhook the trailer to do so. Even if I had to get fuel(which is highly unlikely), it would take me less than 10 minutes to do so.

So the Tesla may win the sprint, but it will not win the marathon. At least not with today's technology.

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Posted: 12/09/19 02:13pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

I wonder how far $3 million will go. Unless GM and LG want to compete with Energizer battery.[emoticon][emoticon][emoticon]
I think it is a million spelled with a 'B'.

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Only seen occupant safety tests. Never a bystander test.

Although I do wonder about how well that SS will absorb energy in a collision.


I am not sure if there are specific pedestrian regs but there are various groups that have influence to help make vehicles safer and minimize injuries in car/pedestrian accidents.

As far as street legal. The cybertruck is definitely not legal in its current form. And you are correct about exceptions to prototype/low volume vehicles. Many early test vehicles we get, with the exceptions of seat belts have no other active safety features like airbags and other things commonly found on production vehicles.

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time2roll wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

I wonder how far $3 million will go. Unless GM and LG want to compete with Energizer battery.[emoticon][emoticon][emoticon]
I think it is a million spelled with a 'B'.


It's actually spelled 2,300,000,000.00 for the battery joint venture with LG, supposedly in Lordstown OH.
They said up to $3,000,000,000.00 for Detroit/Hamtramck Assembly. It will be retooled for electric truck production.

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