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Posted: 11/26/19 05:56pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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Thanks, I had thought the Ford 6.0 was a problem, didn't realize the 6.4 was as well. And I see that the 2011 and 12 6.7 was problematic as well.
On the Rams and GM, anything specific to watch for? Ram tranny problems? My 01 had to be changed.


If getting a RAM get a newer one with DEF.


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We purchased a 2008 GMC Sierra 3500 dually with Duramax in 2015. The truck is fully loaded, had 110000 miles and paid $29000. The truck has been solid as a rock and now has 153000 miles. Will be purchasing it's first set of new tires this spring. The only issues we've had is a bad glow plug, a failed o-ring on fuel filter housing and had to replace the anti lock brake regulator. Total repair costs around $300. Love this truck and will drive it another five years. The truck is still worth close to $25000 so it has been a great buy as well.


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We put $3200 into a work 2008 F-550 (6.4) last year that had 75k miles on it. The high pressure fuel pump went out. The cab has to be removed (yes, you can also take apart most of the front clip) but the time in labor on these is expensive.


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If I was to buy used I'd buy a 2015 F350 with the 6.7 Powerstroke, but the Ram and GM from that year are very good trucks as well. The 6.7 Powerstroke had some significant improvements made in 2015.


They sell for 25k?


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Look for a STOCK unmodified truck with good maintenance. My 1st choice is GMC. Then Ram.... GM Duramax is an Isuzu designed motor and the Allison transmission is hard to beat; the 6.6 Duramax has been around since introduced in 2001!

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After being a die hard Ford man for years I bought the truck in my signature new and have absolutely no regrets. If I were in your position I would buy a 2013 or newer Ram 3500 with the Cummins diesel. They have no transmission issues to speak of, they have DEF which virtually eliminated the DPF and turbo clogging issues mentioned earlier, and they do NOT have the grenade prone Bosch CP4 high pressure fuel pump which Ford has used since 2011 and GM used up until 2017 I believe. If that pump goes, it can cost upwards of $15k because it trashes the entire fuel system. Some will say the failures are relatively rare, but it truly sucks if it happens to you. I have read of several on here and work with a fellow who had it happen to him as well (he traded the truck in while it was being repaired).


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FishOnOne wrote:

I would never own a diesel truck that's equipped with a DPF and doesn't have DEF. Too many problems with them.


There's two Chevy trucks of that era in my driveway. One is a 2008, the other is a 2009. Both have been trouble free since new.


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4x4ord wrote:

If I was to buy used I'd buy a 2015 F350 with the 6.7 Powerstroke, but the Ram and GM from that year are very good trucks as well. The 6.7 Powerstroke had some significant improvements made in 2015.


They sell for 25k?


Yup. If he is willing to buy one from Alberta Canada he could get a very nice 2015 Lariat FX4 F350 with about 140k miles on it for about 25k USD.


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IdaD wrote:

A few points to ponder.

- 6.0 and 6.4 Ford diesels are junk, and are priced accordingly used. A low price does not always equate to a good value. There are options for "bulletproofing" these engines but I don't know what they cost or how effective those preventative fixes are.



I know itès weird but I have almost 300k miles on my 6.0L, stock head bolts too. Weird.

All things in Ièd avoid the 6.4L as well even though it is a very close cousin to the 6.0L. PITA with 1st gen new emission gear. Compared to it my 6.0L has almost none.

With ANY used diesel that is out of warranty be prepared to either work on it yourself or have some room on a CC because NONE of them are cheap to have work done on, especially at a dealer.


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FishOnOne wrote:

I would never own a diesel truck that's equipped with a DPF and doesn't have DEF. Too many problems with them.


There's two Chevy trucks of that era in my driveway. One is a 2008, the other is a 2009. Both have been trouble free since new.


Consider yourself lucky or you drive a lot of highway miles and very little driving around town. A lot of these trucks would fill the crankcase with diesel from the regen process and is the main reason why GM switched to the 9th injector to address this problem.

I would still avoid one like the plague.


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