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As you get longer in length there will be more limitations. However I have always found sites to accomodate my rig. I have always had 40' trailers and have always found places to camp. Sure there were sites I could not fit into but there were always others available that I could fit into.


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There are a lot of good comments in this thread regarding the length so I don't have anything to add there. One thing to be aware of is that the larger fivers tend to be very tall which is also something to be very aware of. We have run into a few situations where trees have not been trimmed high enough both on park roads and in sites which can cause a lot of damage if attention is not paid to this.


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With all my fivers being physically longer than 38', the ONLY place I was gonna have trouble was a state park in Florida. that was due to the HEIGHT, NOT length...

We drove through it the year before we wanted to go and just ended up going somewhere else. We normally do not do the National parks, but the state parks we have been in have had plenty of room to move and park...


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Recognize your CC38efk is really 41ft long. We stay at a lot of state parks and some national ones. Our last 5er was 34’, and current one is 35ft...that was max length I wanted to go. Our length limits us somewhat, but not significantly. I do carry a pole saw because height can also be an issue. We haven’t traveled much in the NE where I suspect we’d be limited a little more but still doable. 41ft would be well beyond a lot of sites, but if you’re willing to stay at commercial parks I’m sure you can still always find something. If you wand state and national parks I’d look real hard at your need for >40ft.

Regarding trucks, I assume you have a diesel dually 1T for the trailers you’re looking at.


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MNRon wrote:

Regarding trucks, I assume you have a diesel dually 1T for the trailers you’re looking at.


Thank you for all the great responses.

WRT truck, we will be purchasing a superduty. diesel yes, dually... still in discussion.

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Looked up the specs on the CC38efk you’re looking at. 41ft 8in, so actually closer to 42ft...see my comments above.

More importantly, it says dry pin weight of 2700lbs, dry weight of 14.4k and gross of 18klbs. Pretty much guarantee you will be over your rear axle weight if you get an SRW.

My VL 320GK has a “dry pin” of 2600, dry weight of 12something, and gross of 16k. Actually loaded it weighs in around 15.5k (extra batteries, stuff, and water). Actual pin weight is 3550. I’m right on the spec’d capacity of my SRW.

For any “mid-high end” 5er like a CC you really need a 1T to stay within weights; and a dually if you’re over ~35ft. Lots travel over their rear axle weights, I won’t recommend it but that’s your call. I’ve seen MANY that started out with an SRW and then weighed their rigs ready for travel and subsequently lost a bunch of money trading in their new SRW for a dually. Make sure you make an informed decision.

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MNRon wrote:

For any “mid-high end” 5er like a CC you really need a 1T to stay within weights; and a dually if you’re over ~35ft. Lots travel over their rear axle weights, I won’t recommend it but that’s your call. I’ve seen MANY that started out with an SRW and then weighed their rigs ready for travel and subsequently lost a bunch of money trading in their new SRW for a dually. Make sure you make an informed decision.


I get it. Told SWMBO, if we go dually, it will be a 450.

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Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

Yes, anything above 25 ft will be an issue in finding camping spots in state and national parks.

We had a 21 ft before and we have to plan out to get into a campsite that will fit our TT. And even if it says it can fit 25 ft, maneuvering between trees, rocks and very tight park roads is an obstacle.

Commercial RV parks almost always can accommodate you. But you have to compromise as it will be just a tad better than a parking lot.


Very accurate observations and comments. In Calif. state parks have a max of 30'. Whenever possible do a walk through BEFORE pulling your RV into the park and check out the sites they want to put you into. Really check overhead branches that could damage your roof. I carry a small branch clipper just in case I need to cut any branches.
In some fancy RV resorts, there is a minimum length of trailer they will accept[emoticon]. Arizona El Mirage Resort min. length is 28'.

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philh wrote:

MNRon wrote:

For any “mid-high end” 5er like a CC you really need a 1T to stay within weights; and a dually if you’re over ~35ft. Lots travel over their rear axle weights, I won’t recommend it but that’s your call. I’ve seen MANY that started out with an SRW and then weighed their rigs ready for travel and subsequently lost a bunch of money trading in their new SRW for a dually. Make sure you make an informed decision.


I get it. Told SWMBO, if we go dually, it will be a 450.


Make sure you get the =right= 450. Some actually have less GVW than the top of the line 350s.

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We got into a lot of trouble hitting national parks in the Northwest with our 34ft 5th wheel. Save yourself a lot of trouble and headaches by settling with something under 30 ft with a good floor plan you like.

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