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I feel dumpy for just now knowing about it. A friend said he had a bunch of extra I could have. (His dad was an engineer of sorts, so he gets a lot of cool ideas).

This will simplify life so much.
Ebay had 60 for only $13, thats 13 cents each if I did math right.

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Just a concern. Since you can "twist and pull" the wire out, how will these work on "mobile" moving equipment? I don't trust wire nuts on campers as I have witnessed several of them fall off.


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Nothing better than a good ol fashioned wirenut twisting the wires together.


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time2roll wrote:

enblethen wrote:

They use the same style of jab in connector terminals on some switches and receptacles. Less then desireable connection.
Rated for different gauges of wire but may not work well with small and large wire.
I believe these are rated by code to allow to be covered in a wall without a J-box. In essence rated same as continuous wire by code.


I have never seen a code that allows splices to be "buried" in a wall

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Mike134 wrote:

time2roll wrote:

enblethen wrote:

They use the same style of jab in connector terminals on some switches and receptacles. Less then desireable connection.
Rated for different gauges of wire but may not work well with small and large wire.
I believe these are rated by code to allow to be covered in a wall without a J-box. In essence rated same as continuous wire by code.


I have never seen a code that allows splices to be "buried" in a wall


apparently nobody reads the code then. try 334.40B, kits have been available for years.. page 195 on NFPA 70

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The Wago is not a twist and pull, not sure where that came from. There is a lever than clamps down and the wire is stuck until the lever gets pulled up, which takes quite a bit of prompting to do - should never unhook by itself.

If you look at any DIY forum long enough you figure out that individuals are not bound by any code. Following a code will be safer, but code is not the only safe way. Individuals can take their own risk and judgment for what will work and be safe, right or wrong, the layman does not read 1,000 page code book to connect two wires together. This is a tired comment to keep bringing up every time someone works on their RV. Feel free to suggest a better way, but stop with the code references

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The last I knew the only place that a splice/joints, are allowed, not in an assessable box, is under ground.

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LittleBill wrote:

Mike134 wrote:

time2roll wrote:

enblethen wrote:

They use the same style of jab in connector terminals on some switches and receptacles. Less then desireable connection.
Rated for different gauges of wire but may not work well with small and large wire.
I believe these are rated by code to allow to be covered in a wall without a J-box. In essence rated same as continuous wire by code.


I have never seen a code that allows splices to be "buried" in a wall


apparently nobody reads the code then. try 334.40B, kits have been available for years.. page 195 on NFPA 70

in wall splice kit

Home Depot Kit


Just because they make them doesn't make them legal. Apparently you read the code wrong. Those splices are allowed for exposed work per sec 334.40. we were talking about buried in the wall.

Re read the code sec 300.15A Need a box for a splice there are exceptions but the application talked about is not one of them.

* This post was edited 02/12/20 11:58am by Mike134 *

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Mike134 wrote:

LittleBill wrote:

Mike134 wrote:

time2roll wrote:

enblethen wrote:

They use the same style of jab in connector terminals on some switches and receptacles. Less then desireable connection.
Rated for different gauges of wire but may not work well with small and large wire.
I believe these are rated by code to allow to be covered in a wall without a J-box. In essence rated same as continuous wire by code.


I have never seen a code that allows splices to be "buried" in a wall


apparently nobody reads the code then. try 334.40B, kits have been available for years.. page 195 on NFPA 70

in wall splice kit

Home Depot Kit


Just because they make them doesn't make them legal. Apparently you read the code wrong. Those splices are allowed for exposed work per sec 334.40. we were talking about buried in the wall.

Re read the code sec 300.15A Need a box for a splice there are exceptions but the application talked about is not one of them.


pretty sure I'm not, not sure how else to interpret concealed

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