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patperry2766

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Posted: 01/13/20 11:30pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The ONLY difference between the 2500 and a SRW 3500 is coil vs leaf springs. Same axle, tires, rims etc. I have the same truck as you and I'd be comfortable going 500-750 over payload with the addition of airbags. Everything else on the truck can handle it.


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The ONLY difference between the 2500 and a SRW 3500 is coil vs leaf springs. Same axle, tires, rims etc. I have the same truck as you and I'd be comfortable going 500-750 over payload with the addition of airbags. Everything else on the truck can handle it.


I'd check tire capacity as well. How about having 3500 leaf springs added to the 2500?


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jimh425 wrote:

patperry2766 wrote:

The ONLY difference between the 2500 and a SRW 3500 is coil vs leaf springs. Same axle, tires, rims etc. I have the same truck as you and I'd be comfortable going 500-750 over payload with the addition of airbags. Everything else on the truck can handle it.


I'd check tire capacity as well. How about having 3500 leaf springs added to the 2500?


I owned a 2014 910DB and carried on a 2017 Ram 3500 DRW with springs. I would not carry TC on a 2500. Minimum 3500 1 ton with springs and some mods. TC is heavier than listed. Sold it to a new owner with a DRW. Nice model and well built though.

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I owned a 2014 910DB and carried on a 2017 Ram 3500 DRW with springs. I would not carry TC on a 2500. Minimum 3500 1 ton with springs and some mods. TC is heavier than listed. Sold it to a new owner with a DRW. Nice model and well built though


I think Adventurer truck campers are the most underrated TC on the internet..They have something just about for everyone(light to heavy) and most can be equipped with a generator,something others do not offer in smaller TC's...They also have a great warranty to back it up(3 years)..

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The biggest draw back of the Ram 2500 is the coil spring placement. With the coils so far inboard, it is hard to keep a tall CG stabilized. You can add heavier coils, Timbren/Sumo springs farther outboard, a heavy stabilizer bar and heavily damped shocks along with higher rated tires and rims to make it better, but still will not be as good as a truck that has the primary suspension farther outboard. My opinion is that you can drop some money in this truck to make it an acceptable handling ride but it will never be exceptional with a truck camper.

Have you considered upfitting your current trailer so it can handle boon docking better? Perhaps a suspension lift, larger wheels, shocks and skid plates covering the bottom vulnerable components would be enough rather than having two campers or replacing your current one.


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Bedlam speaks the truth.
Myself, I’m supposing the performance of the coil setup. Plenty of miles driving them but have never plopped a camper on one.
The tradeoff in handling I think is real. Whether it’s acceptable handling to you is subjective.
The other tradeoff is you have a new manual trans truck. If you had or wanted an auto, I’d say that you’d be pretty much even money to sell/buy a 3500 with some good old fashioned leaf springs under it. But the late model G56 trucks are pretty rare. And now discontinued.


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I have an Adventurer 89RB on my 2017 Ram 2500 Cummins Crew Cab Long Box. I added Ride Rite air bags and have driven many miles through the mountains and to the coast with zero issues. I do not have AC or a generator which helps with the weight. Not once have I had an issue with handling even in the high winds of the Columbia River Gorge. Works just fine for me.

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Can you explain this some more? Isn't that the point of buying the HD diesel trucks? I could never go back to gas, so much more power in the diesel.


In the Ram 2500, the GVWR is the same regardless of if you get a gas or diesel. Since the diesel weighs about 1,000# more, you get 1,000# less in payload. The main idea for a 2500 is it's pulling power but with limited payload. This works okay for goosenecks and fifth wheels to a point. The biggest reason though is because some meaning grocery haulers want the diesel so they are trying to soften up the ride while still providing the diesel.

But if you want to go big gooseneck or fifth wheel you are still going to need a 3500 to handle the pin weight. You also need to go to the 3500 for the payload to carry a TC, DRW if you need it.

I made the switch from a 5.9 diesel to a 6.4 hemi and am well pleased but only because I don't work the truck that hard. My heaviest load is the 2,400# camper with occasional 2,800# boat or 4,000# car. With the car, I'm getting to the limit of the 6.4 hemi. Just the camper I run the speed I want to and don't have let the engine scream over 3,000rpm to do it. When I had the diesel, it was for pulling a 12,800# FW and I would never want to pull that load with my current truck. Now, not only did I save $6k buying a gas, but it's also costing me the same to drive it compared to my 5.9 diesel (and it got better mileage than the diesels today).


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Posted: 01/15/20 08:27am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

GM back in the '60s era were using a trailing arm with coils. I had one and carried truck campers.

I was very surprised when Ram announced the new coil spring 2500 truck. However those that use the coil spring 2500 truck don't seem to have any problem with loads in the bed like a GN trailer or 5th wheel trailer or a bumper pull unit.
IB516 has said his 2500 coil spring truck carried his 5er with about the same sag as his previous 3500 SRW Ram/Dodge.

The old GM trailing arm setup had the coils very far inboard. This allowed for a huge amount of body roll. If the rear shocks were bad and it started swaying it reminded me of a high speed bazz boat chine walking. The only way to stop it was brake and slow down quickly.
GM did have a three leaf half spring set up for a overload/stabilizer set which stopped body roll.
The spring set were cut in the middle (half spring).
They bolted to the main frame rails behind the rear axle and contacted a pad on top of the axle tub out board from the coils. These were a option from GM.

If I was in the OP position I would look for a TC with the lowest profile that would work for his needs......and not exceed RAWR...wheels/tires and rear spring pack capacities


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Posted: 01/15/20 08:34am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Being a master mechanic it might be worth looking into changing the 2500 coil spring setup to 3500 leaf springs .The body builder manual should give you the exact measurements for brackets and hangers .


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