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davelinde

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way2roll wrote:

As far as campsites, you'd be hard pressed to find a place you couldn't camp with a 35 footer.


Part of the plan is to see a lot of the National Parks. I'm getting some confirms that some NP won't accommodate 30'+ - though that opinion is mixed. One of the sales guys at the show made a big deal about how there might be fewer sites but almost all parks had some longer sites. Not sure if that is true or not - but a by-stander to that conversation said that some parks are such a hot commodity that being limited to some sites means you likely will never get a site there...


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Dave, have you done anything with my suggestion to look at the Treks I gave you links for earlier? These are 29-1/2 feet long, high end coachs with corian counter tops and real wood cabinets. Huge bathrooms, full body paint. 4 coach batteries with inverter and pass through storage compartments. These are not comparable to the under $100k units you've seen before. While they're orphans, they've got a great support group going for them with answers to just about anything you run across. At least take the time to look at the pictures in the ads and see what you think.


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DFord wrote:

Dave, have you done anything with my suggestion to look at the Treks I gave you links for earlier? These are 29-1/2 feet long, high end coachs


I followed the link you gave me as soon as I saw it - THANKS!

I got a bit distracted though since we are still a couple years from buying and our plan was to look at what is out new now so we can be looking for those rigs used in two years. With this product out of production it's less clear we will want something that old when the time comes. Though I guess I should not rule it out. Thanks for the reminder.

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We bought our 2020 Holiday Rambler Admiral 28A a few months ago; equivalent to the Fleetwood Flair 28A. The 28A and 29M floorplans appealed to us for the exact reasons the OP mentioned. Easier to drive for the DW, less rear overhang, easier to find sites in State and National Parks, and comfortable for short trips for the 2 of us soon-to-be-empty-nesters.

The OCCC on ours is a paltry 1,200 lbs. Built on a 16,000 lbs F53 chassis; the 18K chassis would have been preferable but would have (of course) increased the price.

I figure we'll just make sure we only take what we need on each trip, rather than filling it with 'just in case' and seasonal stuff that just adds weight. Not much basement storage anyway in the 28A.
We did not buy it with the intention of full-timing; weekends away and the occasional week here and there. The towing capacity is massive (7,000 lbs) so a loaded toad will be easy.

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pearsonrj wrote:

We bought our 2020 Holiday Rambler Admiral 28A a few months ago; equivalent to the Fleetwood Flair 28A. The 28A and 29M floorplans appealed to us for the exact reasons the OP mentioned. Easier to drive for the DW, less rear overhang, easier to find sites in State and National Parks, and comfortable for short trips for the 2 of us soon-to-be-empty-nesters.

The OCCC on ours is a paltry 1,200 lbs. Built on a 16,000 lbs F53 chassis; the 18K chassis would have been preferable but would have (of course) increased the price.

I figure we'll just make sure we only take what we need on each trip, rather than filling it with 'just in case' and seasonal stuff that just adds weight. Not much basement storage anyway in the 28A.
We did not buy it with the intention of full-timing; weekends away and the occasional week here and there. The towing capacity is massive (7,000 lbs) so a loaded toad will be easy.


Good points all said more articulately than I was trying to say in an earlier post. Small 30' Class A's and under are great. They are nimble, easy to handle, no limits on campsites etc. But everything is a concession - not much storage, low CCC, etc. I've owned 2 and loved them. Could you full time in them? Maybe, but you couldn't carry much and towing would need to be seriously calculated. After owning the 2 I had, I am looking for 35' plus to full time in. More room, more slides, raised rail for basement storage, washer dryer, 22.5 wheels, better quality, etc. All things you won't find on a sub 30' coach. Almost a moot point anyway as you mentioned you aren't buying for 2-3 years. A world of things will likely happen in the RV world between now and then.

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davelinde wrote:

DFord wrote:

Dave, have you done anything with my suggestion to look at the Treks I gave you links for earlier? These are 29-1/2 feet long, high end coachs


I followed the link you gave me as soon as I saw it - THANKS!

I got a bit distracted though since we are still a couple years from buying and our plan was to look at what is out new now so we can be looking for those rigs used in two years. With this product out of production it's less clear we will want something that old when the time comes. Though I guess I should not rule it out. Thanks for the reminder.


Dave, once you take the time to do a walk through of either of these Treks and compare the features and quality of them to whats available new today, you may end up disappointed you passed on them. By all means, take the time to have a look at one before continuing your search.

Here's a sales brochure on the 2005 Treks:
http://www.nwtfc.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/2005-safari-trek-brochure.pdf

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Could you full time in them? Maybe, but you couldn't carry much and towing would need to be seriously calculated. ... things you won't find on a sub 30' coach. Almost a moot point anyway as you mentioned you aren't buying for 2-3 years. A world of things will likely happen in the RV world between now and then.


It's fun going over the what-if... We are not actually planning for being full-time but more along the lines of extended-time trips. Still I need storage... this morning I was airing tires on DW car and remembered that without the tap on the air brakes I had in the last rig I'd want a portable compressor that didn't take all day per tire. Folding chairs and tables are light but take up space. I could go on. I need some kind of storage.

Maybe someone will introduce a new product idea before we buy, but since we are leaning towards used this time the options are likely all on the table today.

The other day I'd almost gone all in on the "must be less than 30' to get access to where DW wants to camp"... but now I'm wondering again about a short DP.

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I'm wondering what I could assume for depreciation and cost of re-sale.
When I buy an RV, I know it will depreciate, and do so much more quickly than most other vehicles. But the dirty little secret is, most of us don't buy our RVs worrying about how much they'll depreciate - we buy them because we have the means, and because we WANT one. It's not an "investment".


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I use to have a 34’ Winnebago Chieftain, and I was surprised how little basement storage there is on our 28’ Class A. On the plus side it prevents you from lugging around a bunch of stuff you rarely or never use; but reinforces the fact that these shorter rigs are not for full-timing without serious compromises.

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davelinde wrote:

I'm wondering what I could assume for depreciation and cost of re-sale.
When I buy an RV, I know it will depreciate, and do so much more quickly than most other vehicles.


I think you missed my point. We are looking to buy 3 years out. I know what those rigs cost now, new. I am trying to guestimate what they will cost for me to buy in 3 year, used. To be honest I see the retail re-sale prices of used rigs mapping to a "depreciation" from the new list price. But in addition to knowing that new rigs depreciate... I also know that new rigs should not be purchased at list price.

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