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Posted: 01/27/20 02:41pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I'm replacing the cole hersee battery isolating solenoid because it's been working intermittently. The replacement is the exact part except the studs are about 1/8 shorter, and I can't fit all three of the lugs on the stud with room enough to screw the nut on top of them to hold them down.

I'm thinking I need to buy a heavy duty bus bar in order to get these connected, but I don't know what size. Since the starter battery delivers 975 cca do I need a $130 1000 amp bus bar? Or am I going down the wrong track?


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Posted: 01/27/20 03:05pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

What I would do is just get a short #1AWG and bolt (really tight!)all four lugs together, then put the #1's other lug on the solenoid. Wrap the bolt and four lugs in tape for insulation.

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Posted: 01/27/20 03:15pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

BFL13 wrote:

What I would do is just get a short #1AWG and bolt (really tight!)all four lugs together, then put the #1's other lug on the solenoid. Wrap the bolt and four lugs in tape for insulation.

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Another option is to get a short length of copper water pipe, flatten it in a vice, and drill suitably.

The bus bar or whatever simply needs to be sufficient for the current flowing through it, not for the theoretical rating of the starting battery. At least in my RV that would be determined by the master fuses at either end of the solenoid, or something like 175A if I recall. Failing that, the wire sizes give some clues as to what to expect.





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Posted: 01/27/20 04:11pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

BFL13 wrote:

What I would do is just get a short #1AWG and bolt (really tight!)all four lugs together, then put the #1's other lug on the solenoid. Wrap the bolt and four lugs in tape for insulation.

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Great recommendation. I have done this and it works great but over time encountered a bit of corrosion where the wires are grouped together. Still a good solution.

* This post was edited 01/27/20 04:17pm by 4aSong *


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Depending on the size of the lug.... There is a product you can get at a battery store that is a bolt/nut.. Basically it's a lug extender

It may have long enough threads or you can put one lug under the extender and tighten it down then put the other 2 on it (or the other way around)


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I second BFL’s suggestion.


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Belt sander and make the nuts a little thinner maybe? Or find thinner nuts at hardware store?

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Google Battery Post extender.$8-$10


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I do not know about all RV's but my little Toyota sitting next to the house with a mostly OE system, the isolator is 100 amps continuous protected by 40 amp circuit breakers. So theoretically except for brief surges the most that can pass through there is 40 amps.

If I were in this situation I would likely flatten a piece of copper pipe and drill a couple holes. On the other hand an internet search will reveal all types of terminal extenders, expanders etc. Of course you will have to find the post size and thread size to match one up.

* This post was edited 01/28/20 06:33am by jjrbus *

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