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Threebigfords

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Posted: 02/13/20 03:00pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I know it's a narrow segment of the folks here, but if you own a 10 lug F450 and have the same love/hate relationship with the 19.5 inch tires as I did, then maybe this will help. I've tried a few different tires and sizes in the last 105k miles.

I started out on the stock 19.5 225 Continental HDR's....they rode o.k. but had no traction.

I swapped those out for the taller more aggressive 245 Toyo 608z. Worst tire ever. They lasted two weeks on the truck.

I then tried the 245 Michelin XDS2...smooth enough ride, but noisy on smooth asphalt and poor traction in snow....and expensive.

I then lifted the truck and went up another size to 19.5 x 265. Michelin didn't make the XDS2 in that size so I was back to the Toyo 608z....which I suffered with for the last 40k Miles. Horrible tire.
They even smell bad.

I FINALLY decided I'd had enough. I ordered a set of Fuel 20 x 8.25 Ford 10 lug wheels, with 12 ply 35x12.5x20 Toyo RT tires. These are direct bolt on wheels. No spacers or adapters. They have the same load rating on the wheels as the Alcoas, and the 12ply F rated tires are only 300lbs less load per tire than the stock G rated Continentals. The wheels are offered in 3 different offsets for 285, 12.5" and 13.5" width tires.

**** what a difference.

PRO's
They balanced out perfect.
They are WAY quieter.
MUCH smoother running at 70 PSI.
Truck tracks straighter.
I can air them down when needed.
Tires are much less expensive.
45k mile mileage warranty.
Far better traction in all conditions.

CON's
They are much wider. Sticking with the 285 tire offset could alleviate some of that.
The initial cost of the wheels will take two sets of tires to recoup.

I seriously should have done this 3 years ago. These wheels will be moving to a new F450 when the time comes!

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* This post was edited 02/13/20 03:07pm by Threebigfords *


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Posted: 02/13/20 03:29pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

They look really nice.
5 sets of tires and a new set of wheels in 100k miles? Priceless.

Doesn’t matter that it’s almost brodozer status since you aren’t hauling a TC or a 5ver.
(You could have bought a F250 and saved the tire and wheel rodeo....but sweet looking truck nonetheless)


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Truck looks nice. Won’t as soon as you drive thru a mud puddle.


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Posted: 02/13/20 04:06pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

With that wide track front axle, it was never clean even with the stock tires. The fronts always plaster the entire length of the truck with grime.

Turns sharp as heck, but stay clean?...I gave up on that.

The trucks not clean in those pictures anyways. Just pulled into a covered parking garage from a rainstorm. Been raining here for the last two dang months!

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Obviously don’t pull a FW with that configurations, but nice look.


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Nope. Not setup for 5th wheel. But only because of the canopy.

I haul more with this setup than most 5vers weigh in at. The tools/canopy/bedslide in the bed add over 3k lbs to the truck. Then add between 2000-2500lbs of tongue weight from either the Toyhauler or my dump/equipment trailers and that's 5500lbs. Far more than the pin weight of most 5vers.

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* This post was edited 02/13/20 05:36pm by Threebigfords *

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Just for future reference Ford is now installing the Continental HD3 which addresses the issues you had.


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Posted: 02/13/20 06:25pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I looked at that tire and don't see how it addresses any of the issues I had.

Still a stiff poor riding 19.5" tire

Still has poor traction.

Still can't air them down

Still a commercial truck tire that won't balance worth a ****

Still doesn't offer any significant advantages in load capacity or tread life for all the negatives.

Still more expensive

Still has an inferior speed rating

So what exactly does it address again?

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Posted: 02/13/20 06:37pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Gee, you spent all your money on wheels and tires.


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Posted: 02/13/20 07:13pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Threebigfords wrote:

I looked at that tire and don't see how it addresses any of the issues I had.

Still a stiff poor riding 19.5" tire

Still has poor traction.

Still can't air them down

Still a commercial truck tire that won't balance worth a ****

Still doesn't offer any significant advantages in load capacity or tread life for all the negatives.

Still more expensive

Still has an inferior speed rating

So what exactly does it address again?

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I'll let Big Truck Big RV explain...

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